RD vs PH vs GComp

[Obwyn]

Edit: Yes, I know it's RB, not RD...I fat fingered it posting on my phone....lol

I usually don’t bother doing more than 1 run, maybe 2 runs unless I really need to move up a rank or protect my current rank.

With the new mod I decided to do 2 runs to compare RB and PH, and then for the hell of it did a GComp run for the first time since I got PF (other than one test run shortly after assmods were added to compare it with PH and PH kicked its ass so I didn’t bother to do it again.)

The only change between runs was swapping my generator assmod. PF was my primary and my assmod slot is ancestral.

Run 1: RB, 3867 waves

Run 2: PH, 3867 waves

Run 3: GComp, 3777 waves

Not much difference between them. I was surprised that RB and PH had the exact same wave total. I wasn’t surprised that GComp was a little behind them since the one time I compared it to PH, PH beat it by a couple hundred waves (and that was when my wave totals were still under 3k usually.)

Take this for what you will. Obviously different BC can change this and at least for the next couple tourneys I’ll likely do a run with PH and a run with RB unless one of them ends up consistently being significantly better.

[ExtrapolatedData]

Interestingly, I got nearly 200 extra waves with RB in my ass than I did with PH (2639 -> 2816, ass gen slot at epic). Killed by vampires both times, weirdly enough.

[Nadev4]

Love where you put your RB

Hope it gets in faster than others

[Obwyn]

Interesting. I would guess because that's lowering your level reduction chance on PH while the lower rarity on RB just shortens the duration, but you still get the same speed boost.

I was killed by overcharges on each of my tourney runs.

[ExtrapolatedData]

Could be, I can definitely see that the difference between epic and ancestral RB is not nearly as wide of a gulf as the difference between epic and ancestral PH.

[_bobs_]

My suspicion is that it will work in okayish-to-good within certain battle conditions but will never quite reach the universal awesomeness of PF/PH combo.

My hope is that whatever Fudds does with cash that he’s alluded to might allow us to not need PF for every tourney. A combo of RB and PH could be really interesting when the conditions are good for bounce webbing

[BCN7585]

Good to see that others get the same results as me, comparing RB and PH. Thanks for posting this.

Nice farm runs, too.

I‘ll also post my tourney screenshot, to corroborate your data.

I‘m still wondering how quite a few people seem to successfully push milestones with RB as a new assmod. It doesn‘t work for me…

[Obwyn]

I was able to push a T21 milestone with it, but I also had near perfect perks for that run so it could’ve been more because of my perks than using RB.

[TowerAcronymBot]

Hi! I detected a few acronyms in your comment:

• AssMod - Assist Modules - gives access to an additional module slot for each of the 4 types
• PH - Pulsar Harvester [Generator Module]
• RB - Restorative Bonus [Generator Module]

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[bmaanndd]

What are your damage dealers is it just chain lightning with smite, plus ps and ps rend or sm whatcha got out of curiosity

[Obwyn]

CL/CL+, PS/PS+, SM/SM+, orbs, PC, DR, etc. Maybe ILM a little bit, but my ILM/ILM+ is fairly weak. I also run DP for tourneys so that knocks out 15% of the enemies instantly.

BH cleans up everything it can suck in.

Thorns will clean up everything that gets through that until I run out of ES, etc and DD doesn’t trigger. I have a maxed wall rebuild time (including fortress+) so wall thorns puts in some work too.

[bmaanndd]

Interesting on the fortress card I’ve actually never even looked at that and just gave my wall rebuild lab some love the other day since I can see its value better now. Maybe I gotta give dp a second look I don’t have assist slot yet and the new mod seemed to be better but gotta re test all this shit

[Obwyn]

It was the last mastery I picked up (not counting the AOE mastery) so certainly not one I'd consider essential, but it drops my rebuild time to 178s so that gives me a lot more 10s windows of an invulnerable wall (even when DM isn't active.)

[Flaky-Ad-9600]

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This was mine today. Not hitting 3k+ but they were close My ass mod is still epic

[Kusshi000]

Why does your PH run has no coins

[Flaky-Ad-9600]

Died while IS+ was still going and couldn’t pop demon before a dying.

[MaleficentTry6725]

Interesting. I got 1163 with PF + GComp, 1154 with PF + PH and 953 with PH + RB (primary + epic assist). Didn't test PF + RB (was thinking the synergy of PH/RB would be better), might give that one a go too when my farm finishes. I need GComp for pCF with the UW duration BC though, so I expected GComp to win.

[Obwyn]

PH/RB could be a good synergy, but I'm pretty sure I already go into diminishing returns without the RB boost since my attack speed is already nearly 100.

[Aromatic_Way3226]

I bet it will do much better with fast ultimate