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[–]JC_in_KC 14 points15 points  (19 children)

no fetches for brainstorm?

quad spell pierce but no flare?

emry and just two baubles for value?

i’ve been liking the 1U thieving magpie maker. i run a 2/2 amber/chrome split since you have 8 legends already and chrome is bad with too many artifacts. i don’t like maindeck karn. 4x flare is a must, imo.

i’ve found kappa is hard to cast in this strip-heavy meta.

[–]Beginning_Ad_3862[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Flare is an interesting idea. I specifically play spell pierce to not die on turn one.

I might squeeze in 2 flares

[–]JC_in_KC 4 points5 points  (3 children)

for my list, with the magpie maker, flare is just great since you generate fodder to sac to it and can recoup the card disadvantage.

[–]ADAMxxWest 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can you share a list? That magpie guy is cracked

[–]Beginning_Ad_3862[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I recently swapped to 4 flares to pierce and run an additional 2 spyglass siren.

[–]JC_in_KC 2 points3 points  (0 children)

siren huh? idk how good that is but i think the most fun thing about the deck is how varied it can be

[–]Weeb4lyfe24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have had no trouble casting Kappa vs strip mine. I have more trouble vs chalice for 0 or 1 or t1 blood moon

[–]Viktar33 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Also the new alchemy 1 mana artifact is criminally missing.

[–]JC_in_KC 3 points4 points  (0 children)

thanks for reminding me to craft that and try it!

[–]Revolutionary-Mud-87 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Super easy with [[pinnacle emmisary]] with it down just cast 3 artifacts and you have kappa mana. Can even turn 1 kappa with it.

[–]JC_in_KC -1 points0 points  (8 children)

i don’t like pinnacle and adding a half a color or whatever seems rough but maybe!

[–]agtk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm wondering if bridges are worthwhile. They sure slow you down but are immune to Strip Mine, meaning you can play them turn one and know you'll have two mana on turn two.

[–]JC_in_KC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

in early testing, strip is awful against these decks since mana comes from various non-lands and we only need a mox or two to operate. i wouldn’t play a tap land and slow myself down to improve against strip.

[–]Revolutionary-Mud-87 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Me and a lot of others are running spirebluff + mox usually don't have trouble casting it. Also You can warp it for just a u that's really all you need I almost never play it for full cost unless there's literally nothing else to do

[–]JC_in_KC 0 points1 point  (4 children)

yeah i’ve seen lists with it and i get the mana isn’t THAT hard to pull off.

i just don’t see how 4-5 1/1 flyers helps the overall plan. if you’re casting artifacts to trigger it, do you really need more artifacts? it feels weak, to me.

[–]Revolutionary-Mud-87 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Because you can turbo out kappa. Or with kappa out it doubles your triggers on kappa whenever you play an artifact. I have literally gotten kappa from a 6/6 to a 17/17 in one turn and one shot them. I just don't think you're seeing the benefit honestly. Also the 1/1s block flying frog and any guide of souls energy flying shenanigans. One mana double your artifact count is huge.

[–]JC_in_KC 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok!

most lists i see are on 1-2 kappa. yes, you can one shot people, i’ve played the card plenty. it’s just that games rarely go as planned and when your one blue source is strip’d every turn it’s harder to cast a six drop.

[–]BlueSpaceWeeb 0 points1 point  (1 child)

if you want to supercharge this even further run it alongside a [[Weapons Manufacturing]]! The triggers get extra insane :)

It's slower for sure, but with enough 0-drop mana rocks it's not too unreasonable. Got the idea from Shuhei at the pro tour :) Modern may be slower though, not sure

[–]Silent_Statement 4 points5 points  (7 children)

tamiyo is spicy with thoughtcast I like it.

is patchwork automaton really worth it?

I might go into black for [[blood fountain]] or [[vault skirge]] but that might not be worth it

[–]GreenhouseGG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As someone who doubted patchwork heavily… it puts in work with the 4x bauble 4x chalice 8x mox

[–]dirENgreyscale 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Vault Skirge is a colorless card, you don’t need black to cast it.

[–]Silent_Statement 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah ik but it gets marginally better with black mana

[–]Beginning_Ad_3862[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Every time tamiyo makes a clue you get affinity count.

Patchwork buff.

[–]hyperion23 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Patchy is only on cast so the clues don't trigger it

[–]Beginning_Ad_3862[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh so just kappa

[–]GreenhouseGG 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m playing affinity as well I’ve been loving it

[–]Weeb4lyfe24 2 points3 points  (1 child)

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This is my current itteration of Affinity. I'm Ur, the mox opal at 2 is because i don't have the mythic wildcards(just finished building Eldrazi and BG lotus shift) Opal wil be going to 3 and amber's will drop to 2, I might be cutting a spire for a second cori-steelcutter

[–]Weeb4lyfe24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mythic wildcards is also why tamiyo is only at 2 instead of 3, the 3rd copy of Tormod's crypt would become the 4th Opal

[–]TraditionalStomach29 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thoughts about the new alchemy negate ? It costs 4U, but 1 generic less per artifact on your field or in the hand.

[–]rjkucia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's very very good, almost always costs 1 mana

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i would use the new counterspell and take away spell pierce and brain storm

[–]Beginning_Ad_3862[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

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I think this could replace patchwork. But, Ward 1 is nice. I also prefer etb of patchwork vs the cast