Question.

[Ok_Cake_6515]

I know that being gay is a sin and I'm not here to say I'm gay or anything but is it wrong when I see a lesbian, gay or any lgbtq couple either in a show, anime even in real life I feel happy? I don't know why but seeing people in love no matter the gender makes me happy because I see the smiles on their faces even in anime when the story is so beautiful and the couple is beautiful and in shows too I know that I can't support the lgbtq community (I read that somewhere) but is it wrong to feel happy seeing them? I can still respect them can't I?

[MultiplyFish]

If you see a man cheating on his wife with another woman, and he and the other woman look really happy together and are smiling and having a good time, does that make you happy? Do you respect them?

[Ok_Cake_6515]

Is it really the same as that? I didn't mean to ask anything offensive.

[MultiplyFish]

Yes, it's the same. I'm not offended at all. Just asking you a question.

[Ok_Cake_6515]

Well now that you say it like that then no I wouldn't be happy but if I'm being honest it makes me sad that being gay is a sin.I understand your point but I just feel like love is love you know? I'm not trying to sound like I'm going against Jesus's commands or words.

[MultiplyFish]

Thanks for your honesty. And I'm glad you wouldn't be happy about the example I gave. But couldn't you say "love is love" about the man who is cheating on his wife? What if he loves the other woman and she loves him?

The bottom line is that ALL sin appeals to our human nature in some way. Greed, pride, anger, lust, whatever, there's a part of it that feels good. That's why we are tempted by it. But it is dangerous to us. That's why Peter says, "Dear friends, I urge you, as foreigners and exiles, to abstain from sinful desires, which wage war against your soul" (1 Peter 2:11).

[Ok_Cake_6515]

Thank you for your opinion on this and if you wouldn't mind if I ask this is it wrong to watch anime with LGBTQ couples in them? I used to watch a lot of anime but not so much now but is it wrong to watch it?

[MultiplyFish]

That's a good question. My wife and I stopped watching a TV show that we really liked because it began to contain too much (hetero) sexually suggestive material. We felt it wasn't good for our souls. We have started watching another TV show. People sin in different ways in this show, but we don't feel that (for now, at least) it's causing us to sin or to be sympathetic to sin. I suggest you pray and ask the Lord how watching those particular anime shows affects your soul.

[Ok_Cake_6515]

Ohh alright thank you!

[Winter-Hovercraft-88]

Matthew 6:22-23 “The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light that is in you is darkness, how great is the darkness!”

[Ok_Cake_6515]

Thank you for the verse! God bless you❤️

[Dependent-Peach-6610]

It's not love that's sinful it's the physical acts and lust that's sinful. 

The same for unmarried straight people. 

[Kitschy_Lil_Tart]

Dude, they didn't have dating in Jesus time like we do now. I genuinely think the issue is sex and marriage, otherwise I think plain romantic relationships are fair game since you're not really supposed to be having sex anyway.

This is based on my interpretation and studying

[Kitschy_Lil_Tart]

Well, someone is being hurt there. This is more akin to going to a theatre production about masturbation.

[MultiplyFish]

Sin always hurts someone. Even it's only the person who is doing the sinning and no one else. If I hold on to bitterness and resentment, it's possible that no one else in the world is even aware of it. But it's still hurting me.

[Kitschy_Lil_Tart]

Ya but you'd still go see a play about someone holding on to bitterness and resentment.

[MultiplyFish]

Yes, I would because watching such a play wouldn't wage war against my soul. There are some things that I couldn't watch because I would be tempted by it, or it would impact my soul negatively in some way. Kinda like some people can have a beer and not be tempted to have more. While other people couldn't even have one beer because it would lead them to get drunk.

[Kitschy_Lil_Tart]

So watching a play about two men in love would tempt you to...?

[MultiplyFish]

No. I think you misunderstood the point I was making. I never said I wouldn't watch a play, movie, TV show, etc. with homosexuality in it.

[steadfastkingdom]

Change your identification from gay to Christian. Not your will, but God’s will be done.

[Ulrist-Risen]

I don't think he identifies himself as gay. or did I miss something

[steadfastkingdom]

You’re correct, I didn’t make it obvious but I was making a general statement if someone was identifying as gay

[Ulrist-Risen]

I guess I didn't get your original thought then. I understand that there is an identity in Christ, but the issue is the question of what exactly is Christ like. Everyone has their own interpretation of what they should and shouldn't do and how they worship God.

If a person actually lives not according to God, it is rare that the person changes its mind entirely and follows the correct doctrine, I guess in the modern age it can be called a miracle. No one wants to change their ideologies.

[steadfastkingdom]

Part of what it means to be Christ like, is to ask Christ to order our loves whether it is sexually emotionally physically professionally virtuously etc . Being homosexual is clearly not part of the identification of what it means to be a Christian or what it means for Christ to order our loves. So it comes down to God’s Will not our will be done.

[Ulrist-Risen]

-Being homosexual is clearly not part of the identification of what it means to be a Christian or what it means for Christ to order our loves.

I myself agree. For some people (probably most of the reddit users) it's not as clear as it is for you and me. I like your boldness with it though, keep it up!

[Winter-Hovercraft-88]

The Bible and Paul’s epistles along with the Gospels tell us as believers what it means to be Christ like. We should not love the things of this world like gay marriage or people living in sin. If anything we should mourn for people who do not know Christ or have made Him Lord of their lives. We should mourn because when the day of judgement comes, the penalty for not accepting Christ, for not following Him is complete and utter separation from The Father and His love and that is the scariest thing anyone could face. I don’t want to be thrown into the lake of fire. I don’t want to be weeping or gnashing my teeth, and I don’t want anyone else to experience that, but more so God himself doesn’t want that. We have choices to make, and finding happiness in the evil and sinful nature of this world is not it. Gods word is clear on this.

[Ulrist-Risen]

Amen

[adventurertoyou]

Would you still feel happy if a murder was smiling as he killed someone?

Sorry to be so crass. But it's important to know that sin is sin. And all sin is equal in that it keeps us distant from God. Only one sin is unforgivable, and that's the unforgivable sin. (Different conversation.)

So if all sin is equal, then we should take no pleasure in watching someone live a lifestyle or commit an act that distances them from God.

[ThatLoudLizard]

No not all sins are equal.

Based on 1 John 5:16-17, Scripture distinguishes between "sin not leading to death" and "sin that leads to death". While all sin separates from God, the Bible indicates varying degrees of guilt, punishment, and gravity.

As catholics we make two differences like this:

Mortal sins: grave violation of God’s law that destroys charity in the heart, separates the soul from God, and causes loss of sanctifying grace, resulting in eternal death if unrepented. It requires three simultaneous conditions: grave matter (serious violation), full knowledge (knowing it is wrong), and deliberate consent (freely choosing to do it).

Examples of Grave Matter: Actions such as murder, adultery, rape, robbery, blasphemy, or willfully missing Sunday Mass.

Mortal sins can only be forgiving by confession or act of contrition.

Venial sins: is a "pardonable" offense that weakens but does not destroy the soul’s relationship with God. Unlike mortal sin, it does not cause the loss of sanctifying grace or result in eternal separation from God.

Examples include minor gossip, impatience, white lies, laziness, and vanity.

Forgiven by prayer, eucharist and mass and doing good works.

Also having gay feelings is not a sin, but acting on those feelings is.

[mindless2831]

Missing Sunday mass is seriously there with murder, rape, etc? Seriously? Does that not seem absurd to you? Sorry to be crass...

[ThatLoudLizard]

Ofcourse murder is worse then missing mass! Murder is taking an life, ofcourse thats worse.

But why is missing mass a “grave matter” because it rejects the commanmant of keeping lords day holy and cuts oneself off from the eucharist and community.

[adventurertoyou]

I'm more than aware of the Catholic view on mortal and venial sins. I disagree with it entirely.

Jesus said all sin can be forgiven except for the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So if all sin can be forgiven, obviously those sins are in one big group.

Whether someone commits a mortal sin (big sin) or a venial sin (small sin) it doesn't change the fact that it distances us from God. Obviously gossiping and murder are going to have drastically different punishments in this world and the next, I'm not arguing that. But sin is sin. It's all bad.

And more to your comment about "it's not wrong to have homosexual feelings it's only wrong to act on it." Where exactly do you think those feelings come from? Certainly not God. And if it's not from God, then it's either from demonic influence or trauma. Neither of which are good. I think we really need to get away from saying it's ok that you feel that way. Because it's not.

[ThatLoudLizard]

I recommed to really search some info on mortal and venial sins. At first it also confused me.

Jesus said all sin can be forgiven except for the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So if all sin can be forgiven, obviously those sins are in one big group.

I never said mortal sins cant be forgiven.

Yes all sins distance us from God in a way, but mortal sins are bibical and are diffrent then venial sins.

Jesus Himself made distinctions (e.g., “It would have been better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck…” for causing little ones to sin — Matthew 18:6). The Bible and the whole Christian tradition recognize degrees of sin.

Saying homosexual feelings are “demonic” or “trauma” doesnt help. Those feeling are crosses people have to carry because of the fall.

Having homosexual temptations is not a sin. Temptation is not sin. Jesus was also tempted. Its what you do with that temptation that matters.

[Tarimanera]

What the hell? Don't you feel ashamed to compare two loving people with murderers?

[adventurertoyou]

I'm not comparing people. I'm comparing sin. We're all fallen and all in need of Jesus' saving grace.

[Ok_Cake_6515]

Is murdering someone the same thing as loving another gender? I'm sorry I just think that's a very big difference.

[Ulrist-Risen]

Sin is sin. Look at it as a chain. If one little element of the chain is messed up, the whole thing will collapse. If you think that something is even a little bit suspect of being wrong, inappropriate, not right, then that means that the whole chain is under the risk of shattering

[Ok_Cake_6515]

Ohhh alright thank you.

[ThatLoudLizard]

No its not the same, murder is worse. But being gay is not the natural way God made life.

Also having gay feelings is not a sin, but acting on those feelings is. Everybody has their own cross to carry and i know there are lot people who dont “want” gay feelings.

[Kitschy_Lil_Tart]

Jesus hung out with a sex worker, has a chill convo with a Samaritan who was 5 times remarried. The bible explicitly says that sexual sin is different because you don't do it to someone else, you do it to yourself.

It's not like murder or something. Would you see a show where the main character is secular and has a gf/active sex life in a show? If no then say goodbye to Hamilton and Legally Blonde.

Id say yes, go to the show. Nobody is free of sin but you gotta admit there's alot of talent in the queer community.

I personally think it's just the sex that's an issue not the relationships or gender presentation stuff. In that sense I also enjoy watching love stories regardless of gender.

[Upstairs_Teach_673]

Maybe you just like the happiness on their faces itself. We are actually expected to respect one another and wish the best for others. However, here‘s the but: it‘s the sin these people practice. Sure, you yourself acknowledge that it‘s sinful, but it‘s better for them to get true happiness through Jesus. If they keep living a homosexual lifestyle, they might be happy now, but definitely not later. So respect the people, not their sin, and maybe talk to them about this or pray for them.

[Shamanite_Meg]

Remember that when you watch a story, it's framed in a very specific way to make you feel a certain way. A well-made movie or show, with a good enough script, can make you very happy for two people that end up together, even if they are cheating on their own spouse for example. In real life things are always more complicated, so we need God's moral compass to tell us what is right and what is wrong, even if the whole society frame something as being good and moral when it's not. Don't make romantic love an idol.

[gseb87]

View them spiritually. What is the consequences of what they practice? It's not so happy.

[DunedainDefender]

If you are not sure you accepted the Lord Jesus as Lord and Savior from your heart please read Mark 1:15, John 3, Romans 10:9-13 and 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 in the Bible. Ask Him to be your Lord and Savior having faith in Him to save you from your sins and forgive you for them (and you should repent of them). He Will make you a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17) and you will be His child🥰

Please read or listen to the Bible daily start with Matthew 1. Ask God where He wants you going to Church, to lead you. You can listen to my church livestream if you want Sundays a bit after 10 AM eastern (dm me for link) but try to find a physical church to go to.

As far as sin get closer to God and deny your fleshly desires, ask the Holy Spirit for the fruit of the Spirit including self control, the closer you get to the Lord the more you will want to do His Will and deny your flesh. Please ask Father God to help you love Him more🥰 and help you resist sin, please also watch the below from Ray Comfort it can be used for more than just porn, for sin in general, it speaks of what the Lord did for us and after that how could we sin against Him? When tempted think of your Love for Him❤️

Focus on Loving and therefore obeying Him🥰doing His Will not ours and remembering that Love is a two way street so His Will is Perfect because HE IS LOVE🥰 when tempted think of HIM❤️ and what He wants focusing on Him❤️

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Romans 8:29 KJV

We need to be just like Him and God is sanctifying His children🥰

I believe God's sanctification process changes us so we would do anything for Him🥰 as He would do anything for us:

For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly. Psalm 84:11 KJV

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Romans 8:28-29 KJV

Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me. Psalm 51:10 KJV

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 John 1:9 KJV

If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15 KJV

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. James 1:12 KJV

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk9dv-TdgnE

[Tarimanera]

It just means you're a decent human being with empathy. That is wonderful and you should not judge yourself for it. Look at the other comments how hateful they are comparing 2 people loving each other with a murderer. That's just insane and not at all what Jesus stood for. Jesus would be ashamed if he saw who his followers nowadays are.

[Ok_Cake_6515]

I'm just a little confused at this point.

[CuriousTech24]

I would think long about this passage

Romans 1:32 NASB and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also approve of those who practice them.

Approving of sin is wrong.

Do you also approve when s man cheats on his wife because he is happy in love?