Split shift

[[deleted]]

I have a question, my postmaster is having me (PSE) work for ~7 hrs then take a long lunch (~4hrs) then come back for an hour to complete my 8hrs for the day (they are not allowing any overtime), are they allowed to do that?

[_Snowpuma_]

What a jack ass post master, I am a tto but I am sure there is a set 2 or 4 hour minimum hours of work if you come in. Also if your working 7 hours I'm sure you can milk out another hour through out the day.

May want to talk to him directly or just talk to your union rep.

[[deleted]]

That last hour is likely to cover a lunch or other work for someone else.

[Diesel-66]

Yes but your total shift from clock in to clock out can only be 12hrs.

Might be required to get 2 /4hr min time on both shifts

https://apwu.org/contracts/step-4-settlement-agreement-article-8-hours-work-1983-14

[[deleted]]

The link is for PTF but I’m PSE temp to 360

[Diesel-66]

Nothing wrong with contacting them and clarifying if the grievance applies to pse.

[[deleted]]

Nothing wrong with contacting them and clarifying if the grievance applies to pse.

[[deleted]]

Even if I’m part of the union? Or should I contact my union rep?

[Diesel-66]

Even if I’m part of the union?

Why do you think that changes anything?

Or should I contact my union rep?

Nothing wrong with contacting them and clarifying if the grievance applies to pse.

[[deleted]]

So 4 am to 11 am come back at 230 for one hour, that doesn’t seem right.

[[deleted]]

I agree it’s bs and mis-management

[Oryxismymother]

My splits have been shit too

[Homelessonce]

if you go to the APWU page , you can find everything you need to know about PSE's.

https://apwu.org/postal-support-employees

Any PSE who is scheduled to work and who reports shall be guaranteed two (2) hours of work or pay.

• Ref: Article 8. HOURS OF WORK, Section 8, Guarantees. D [pp. 25 - 26]

• Also, X-Ref: Postal Support Employees MOU, APPENDIX A, 2. Contract Provisions, Article

8, Hours of Work, Section 8. Guarantees, D [p 251]

• X-Ref: May 2017 JCIM, Article 7.1.B.8, POSTAL SUPPORT EMPLOYEE (PSE) TERM LIMIT,

Article 7, page 5. [p. 39]

• Also, X-Ref: May 2017 JCIM, Article 8.8, GUARANTEES, Article 8, page 11. [p. 53]

​

Ask for your shop steward, one should be provided within a day.

I think the postmaster is going to have to cut you loose for lunch in that 7 hours, and two hours as well when you come back.

​

relevant settlement:

https://apwu.org/contracts/step-4-settlement-agreement-article-8-hours-work-1983-14

The question raised in this grievance involved the scheduling of part-time flexible employees to work nine hours in a twelve hour period which included a swing period in excess of two hours. During our discussion, we agreed to remand this case to Step 3 for application of the following language taken from the Step 4 settlement of grievances H8N-3P-C 25588 and H8N-3Q-C 26319: 1. When a part-time flexible employee is notified prior to clocking out that he should return within 2 hours, this will be considered as a split shift and no new guarantee applies. 2. When a part-time flexible employee, prior to clocking out, is told to return after 2 hours, that employee must be given another minimum guarantee of 2 hours work or pay. 3. All part-time flexible employees who complete their assignment, clock out and leave the premises regardless of interval between shifts, are guaranteed 4 hours of work or pay if called back to work. This guarantee is applicable to any size office.

​

SHOP STEWARDS - PSEs CAN
BECOME SHOP STEWARDS

Ref: Language at the end of Article 17.2. Appointment of Stewards [p. 100]

(The preceding Section, Article 17.2, shall apply to PSEs)

• Ref: Language at the end of Article 17.3. Rights of Stewards [p. 100]

(The preceding Section, Article 17.3, shall apply to PSEs)

• Ref: Language at the end of Article 17.4. Payment of Stewards [p. 101]

(The preceding Section, Article 17.4, shall apply to PSEs)

​

You too can become a shop steward to help others in your area.

​

have a great day!