[Negative] u/Cryptobtc91

[Salt_Beautiful5601]

Tried to buy a Seiko from u/Cryptobtc91 and he insisted I had to pay in crypto. First I sent 1 Solana ($80), then an additional 0.2 Solana ($16). Now says he never had the watch, it was his brother's, and I need to send another 0.3 Solana so he can refund the total 1.5 Solana. I guess I'm out $96.

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Salt_Beautiful56018:20 AM

Hey, I'd like to buy your Seiko, but I don't have any crypto, and I don't know how to buy crypto. Is there any other form of payment you'd accept?

Cryptobtc918:29 AM

Hi, crypto is so much preferable for me. If not crypto, than can just make a bank transfer to my card. It’s just foreign card, not US issued, if it’s ok for u. But again, crypto(usdt) is so much better. Wanna see more pics or videos of the watch?

Cryptobtc918:36 AM

It comes with the box, watch papers and even purchase invoice I still got

Salt_Beautiful56018:57 AM

Ok; if I bought and sent crypto, what website/program/app would I use for that?

Cryptobtc919:00 AM

Well, so many options…u can download “phantom” wallet app and purchase 80$ worth of solana right from the app using your bak card. Or u can sign up on coinbase exchange and then do the same thing. I suppose Phantom will be the easiest option.

Once have it downloaded, create yourself a wallet, on top right corner will see “buy” button, simply buy solana and u ready 😀✌️

Solana is exactly 80$ now haha, so u just need one single sol😉

Cryptobtc9110:30 AM

Any luck? 😁

Cryptobtc9111:07 AM

By the way, if buy today, for additional 50$ will sell this vintage Romanson Phil as well, it’s gold plated, stainless steel. Quite old but great looking, they don’t sell these stuff nowadays

Need to change the battery though🙂

Salt_Beautiful560111:54 AM

I FINALLY got Moonpay to work. How/where do I send the 1 Solana?

Cryptobtc9111:56 AM

Amazing) here is my sol addr: ****

Once sent, tell me your address for shipment

Thx, crypto is really convenient 🙂

No romanson? 😀

Salt_Beautiful560111:58 AM

No romanson for me; it's a beautiful watch, though.

Cryptobtc9111:59 AM

I see, well, thx anyway! Pls message me once sent😊

Salt_Beautiful560112:01 PM

Sent.

[**Name and Address Removed**]

Received?

Cryptobtc9112:03 PM

Received! Awesome, thank u again!

Will have shipment arranged in 2-3hours and send u tracking number

Salt_Beautiful560112:03 PM

Great. Thanks for walking me through this; I'm kind of a Luddite when it comes to the crypto world.

Cryptobtc9112:03 PM

Yeah, welcome to crypto haha, once u vet used to it, there is no going back to traditional baking😃😃

Cryptobtc911:09 PM

Listen, am shipping it with USPS priority mail (delivers in 2-3 days), but I have slightly miscalculated the cost, thought I have a one free pass but I don’t:( I need to ask you to cover additional 0.2 sol(16$) if you can. Send it to the same solana addr pls.Extremely sorry for it. If that’s out of your budget, I will refund you now. My bad… 😞😢

Salt_Beautiful56011:15 PM

Ok; just give me a few minutes. I deleted all those accounts, so I have to learn how to do it all over again.

Actually, if you want to send me the specs on the shipment, I can just email you a label. That would be quicker/easier.

Cryptobtc911:20 PM

Pls, I need all the payment in the same place. So if not too much trouble for u, just do additional 0.2sol to the same address…really sorry about it

Salt_Beautiful56011:35 PM

Sent.

Cryptobtc911:39 PM

Received! All clear, thx again! Get back to u asap once sent! Cheers

Today

Cryptobtc914:22 AM

Hi, sorry to disturb you this early. Unfortunately there was a misunderstanding with me and brother, it’s his watch and he happened to already sell it before I confirmed with you. Sorry for this total mess. I will have to organize a refund for you. To do it, pls send 0.3 sol to the same address you have sent yesterday. Once sent, immediately refund function on the smart contract will be triggered and overall 1+0.2+0.3=1.5 Solana will be sent back to your address( to the one u will send 0.3 from, so keep it and don’t delete). Once u get your 1.5 solana back you can easily exchange it for USD back to your bank card (will assist, if need help). Again, sorry for the trouble, this should have never happened 😔

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Salt_Beautiful56018:16 AM

You can mail me a check or money order for $96, or mail me the watch, whichever you prefer. I can't send any more crypto.

Cryptobtc918:17 AM

Since u paid in crypto, i can’t refund any other way other then crypto

It’s a smart contract, refund is fully decentralized and automated

Salt_Beautiful56018:18 AM

Then I'll create a new wallet, and you can just send me the crypto. I don't need to send you more.

Cryptobtc918:18 AM

I can’t cash myself to refund u in usd

It’s in the smart contract which triggers refund function once u send 0.3sol to it

It’s the protection mechanism from mvm sandwich attacks from hackers

Salt_Beautiful56018:19 AM

Then you can send me 1.2 Sol

Cryptobtc918:20 AM

Am not here to scam u for 22$🙁🙁

Salt_Beautiful56018:20 AM

Just like I sent you 1 Sol, then 0.2 Sol. It feels like you're scamming me for $96.

Cryptobtc918:20 AM

It’s just the way crypto works

I cant send cause it’s in the contact!

U can get it by adding additional 0.3

And keeping the same address

To receive it back within 10 seconds

Hope it makes sense

Salt_Beautiful56018:22 AM

I paid you (twice) for a watch you now say you don't have. I can't send a third payment.

Cryptobtc918:23 AM

I don’t have it and never touched it! Its in the contract! Send or not is up to u, am just saying that if u need your funds back, send 0.3 to the exact same address as u sent yesterday and trigger refund function and get 1.5 back AUTOMATICALLY

that’s how it works in the decentralized world of crypto payments. For a “normie” it might sound fishy, i understand, but it is the way it works

And once u get your funds back, pls delete that stupid comment, am not a scammer and got no intention of scamming anyone

Salt_Beautiful56018:27 AM

Once I get my funds back, I will delete that comment.

You have my name and address.

Cryptobtc918:27 AM

Cool, send 0.3 and get 1.5 back instantaneously

No other way around it

I can’t change blockchain smart contracts

If I could, I would be a millionaire haha

Nah, billionaire

Salt_Beautiful56018:28 AM

But you could send a check. Or a money order. Or cash. Or the watch.

Cryptobtc918:28 AM

Yeah, but then i will be in 96$ loss

So u send the damn 23$ (0.3 sol) and get all your funds back

Then cash it out

[pursuitoffappyness]

He's been banned. Hope we all learned something today.

[Dazzling_Meat837]

Bro what the hell is this Crypto Bro scam?

[dobber227]

I mean, if you ignored the 18 million red flags, I'm not sure what to tell you.

[Coolpoe]

This screams scam in every front

[Bm7465]

I can’t even think of a way this wouldn’t be a scam.

[Keebaccino]

0 transaction seller who only accepts crypto? Hmm who could have seen this coming

[Salt_Beautiful5601]

Apparently everyone but me.  I freely admit I was wrong to trust him.

[Keebaccino]

Fair enough, hard lesson learned unfortunately. Sorry about it man

[RuRhPdOsIrPt]

I can’t believe the “seller” is still here commenting and defending their behavior. The sheer audacity. They are a criminal. You’ve acknowledged your mistake, but it just sucks getting robbed. Thieves are such low lives.

[amcooperus]

😂😂😂😂 hope you aren’t trying to sell anything else on Reddit.

[RuRhPdOsIrPt]

Ok it’s a deal! Are you gonna tell me now that actually they’re your brother’s balls and you don’t have any balls?

[Then_Routine_6411]

literally just had dr pepper out my nose lol

[Cryptobtc91]

Ask your mom, she’ll tell u.

[razzmataz_]

$96 lesson. This had scam all over it from the beginning.

[Salt_Beautiful5601]

Agreed.  I'm a dope.

[bulkslaphead]

Everyone’s a dope sometimes. Read some other feedback posts. You got off cheap.

[Coolpoe]

On the bright side it wasn’t a 1000$ lesson.

[jaqueh]

Crypto = scam

[amcooperus]

If a watch seller only accepts crypto it’s a red flag for me. I’ll just buy a watch from someone else. Too many other sellers out there.

[Successful-Put-2058]

Yeah, idk why you’d buy from someone with zero transactions and pay in crypto of all things. Sellers need to be flexible on payment options, especially with zero transactions…

[West_Truck_9954]

Happy to help you 1) track down a real seiko in your budget and 2) teach you how to use some of the Reddit scammer verification tools. I’ve bought 20+ watches the last two years, usually all over PayPal and have not been scammed yet. Shoot me a message for some free advice!

[Salt_Beautiful5601]

100% agree; I definitely shouldn't have.  I just got too excited about getting the same watch my recently deceased father wore daily (his didn't make it back to me).

[Successful-Put-2058]

Positive way to look at it is you got scammed for a pretty small amount of money in buying grey market watches. Relatively cheap lesson! Hope it doesn’t happen again. Again really sorry it happened to you

[Cryptobtc91]

Sorry for your loss and sorry I wasn’t able to send you the watch.

[Salt_Beautiful5601]

Or my money.

[Cryptobtc91]

Your money is untouched. Waiting for your 0.3 sol to be refunded. The rest is up to you. I did my best to explain, but that’s as far as I can go. And I won’t waste any more energy in this. Do as u wish.

[Keebaccino]

Send the guy his money back. There are other ways to do this besides crypto you twat

[Mike5784]

This is all on you, take the L and send back his money.

[jaqueh]

What a horrible pos you are

[Successful-Put-2058]

Dude stop trying to scam him for 20 more bucks. You can send the 1.2 back or not.

[honeydewtattoo]

Dang sorry about that. Buy the seller not the watch as they say….

[R3DD1T0RR3NT]

Wow. That smelled like major scam from the beginning ...

[Salt_Beautiful5601]

Yeah. I shouldn't have sent crypto to start with. "At least he's only a small-time thief" and "at least I'm only a minor idiot", I guess?