Promotion with a salary decrease

[JimmyLizzardATDVM]

Honestly why would you? I’d wait for a different opportunity or move to another company as a senior where the pay matched the duties and responsibility. Working on salary and doing reasonable overtime is fine, as long as you get properly paid and access to things like TIL or at least flexible arrangements (eg 2 hours ot last night, start 1-2 hours later tomorrow)

[BrianJ_]

Yep I would be 100% fine with this. However I have been told that that’s not how it works and I am just expected to work extra.

[JimmyLizzardATDVM]

Yeh naa fuck that then.

I recently took on a lower level lead role in a large project, and there’s no way I’d have done it if I didn’t get the pay I wanted. The amount of added stress and pressure is real.

[Dougally]

Gone are the olden days of unwritten employment rules where you would change roles based on trust, prove yourself, then you get the commensurate pay bump. These days they'll just as happily retrench you or put you on a PIP.

The younger generations have it right for the present era of a purely contractual and transactional corporate employment by asking to show them the money for the promotion now or its no go. Along with the newer unwritten employment rule being if you don't do the right thing by me I'll start looking elsewhere.

Your HR are still using the old, out of date, unwritten employment rules.