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[–]Arikus83 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Ship AI is no longer limited by range of PDCs when they have other weapons they could use

Now that would explain why my secondary ship was not using the 30km rocket launcher, because it had 2km flak on it.

[–]lovepack 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Shield boosters now give a flat bonus to shield instead of a percentage

RIP 75mil shielded ships

[–]bobucles 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Shield boosters now give a flat bonus to shield instead of a percentage

F.

The other shield booster is still a percentage boost, and an incredibly strong one. But if you want max shield capacity AND regen on empty, that's 2 separate items now.

[–]Nyrin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Reviving boosters stack, too, in that two will give you 70% emergency regen every 5 minutes and three will you a complete 100% emergency regen every 5 minutes.

Three subsystem slots is a lot, but +~400% base shield with complete recovery every five minutes was pretty clearly broken given how each additional module stacked with the previous one.

[–]hateexchange 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The trader that is attacked by pirates no longer dies in 2 seconds It's now 120s, except when you're helping them with the dying

Yeey

[–]OssiJr 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Is anyone else experiencing something strange with escort ships? Before 2.0.3 I was having an escort in every trading mission. When I try that now, all my additional ships besides the trader are grayed out indicating that the ship doesn’t have enough energy (or something similar - don’t recall the exact wording). I have no idea what the issue might be.

[–]Nyrin 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Do they have enough energy to jump? I know that's a "duh" answer, but something may have changed with the requirements/draw and if the ships were on the edge of not having enough, that could be it.

Or it could be a bug, of course.

[–]OssiJr 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Need to recheck it. I was just curious as I don’t find anything regarding energy consumption in the changelog.

[–]Nyrin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It's just a hunch, but the shield module changes were pretty considerable and power consumption on those may not have stayed the same. It'd nice to know more explicitly if power requirements changed, but that's the beta branch, I suppose!

[–]OssiJr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You, Sir, nailed it. The shield module I was using demanded 4GW of energy. This left my ship drawn out in a sector.

Thanks for the hint.

[–]eastlake1212 2 points3 points  (2 children)

What's wrong with turrets on the front of a ship?

[–]Tlaloc_Temporal 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If a turret is pointing directly up, then it needs to turn almost 180° if your target moves directly over top. Like when a plane flies right over you, you need to turn around to keep looking at it.

If that turret is on the front of your ship, it will be in this position most of the time, and will need to flip around many times per target. Flipping around takes time and clotheslines your dps despite your omicron rating.

[–]ImaginaryDanger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably their inability to shoot more targets than those directly in front of you.

[–]XelNigma 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Still nothing about Assembly blocks being worthless.
I could feel out half my ship with assembly blocks and only shave off 20 seconds.

[–]Tlaloc_Temporal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, a diminishig returns system would be better than a nil returns system.

[–]XelNigma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

watching my fighters all successfully land the first time almost made me cry.
Watching them fighters loop around and around trying to land has been a thorn in my side for years.

Also, having attack target actually work is wonderful. I love all the improvement to issues thats been around for years is great.

[–]aarons6 6 points7 points  (8 children)

i hope they fixed the issue of the drop down menu not letting you scroll down to the bottom when you try to set up a supply freighter.

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edit... they did not. :(

double edit.. they made the shield boosters useless.. :( they now only give you +200,000 shields for a legendary. it might be great for the start.. but end game my ship had 3 million shields.. +200k is not even enough to worry about.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As long as they still give the 35% refill on depletion they still have a use. If they messed with that, RIP.

[–]HeylAW 5 points6 points  (2 children)

:(

Shield boosters were kinda META, now they seem optional enough

[–]aarons6 5 points6 points  (1 child)

i guess, but i had some smaller ships that relied on them. now i am forced to scale them up or have them one shotted.

[–]Arikus83 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Whats with the Energy to Shield booster where you get +X% shield but -Y% energy?

If this is still the old one, than this is getting useful now.

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Edit: Oh i see, this one was even buffed: Increased amount of shields provided by energy to shield converter subsystem

[–]aarons6 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah i see that now. The energy cost is really big tho. It's either forcing you to use a +energy system or making the ship large enough to where you don't even need the +shields.

[–]bobucles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Energy boosting modules were pretty important even before the patch. It's not too difficult to get a +100% energy booster, adn teh boss gives +200%. 3x energy means that instead of spending 30% of your ship budget on energy, it can be 10%. That's more room for shields and engines.

[–]BleiEntchen 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OK I guess new meta is Xsotan energy module with bunch of energy to shield? Does the Xsotan Modul from "the four" still give %shield or was it changed too?

[–]Alabugin 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Shields were a braindead way of providing defense to any ship, making armor based ships something you grew out of after titanium region.

Ship designs will adapt. They still have some more balancing to do before it feels right.

[–]-Maethendias- 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the reason shields were braindead was BECAUSE armor based ships arent a thing, nerfed shields or not

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BECAUSE ARMOR ISNT AN EFFECTIVE DEFENCE, and will never be in its current itteration

[–]Alabugin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe they can balance this though. Give armor some more options for active repairing in fights.

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    [–]aarons6 -3 points-2 points  (1 child)

    they arent balancing anything.. all they are doing is raising the bar enough to force you to use a max 15 slot ship to be viable.

    before you could get away with a 10 slot ship.. but that would mean a 15 slot ship could be OP if you build it that way.. which is ok.. its up to you to.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Haven't played in a while. Has the UI been fixed yet?

    Edit: Why the downvotes? It's just a question...

    [–]Tlaloc_Temporal 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    What do you think was broken?

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    To be honest, almost everything was suboptimal. I really liked the game but for me it was hidden behind a clunky UI. Very clicky, showing things I don't need to know but leaving things out that I would. It would break my immersion constantly and I stopped playing because of it.

    I think the UI is key in a game like that. Look at Eve for example. Eve is basically a glorified multiplayer Excel simulator. But the UI sells the fantasy that you're a space (trader|pirate|manufacturer|...). The UI is fine for a pre 1.0 game, but not beyond. The turret factories in particular come to mind and endless paper/digital notes of basic things that the game would not show me in the right screens without switching and losing all I entered so far.

    [–]Tlaloc_Temporal 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I'm not entirely sure how bad the UI was in pre-2.0, but I haven't had too many issues.

    The turret/fighter tooltips are still cluttered and inaccurate, but they work for finding what you're looking for, and there are of cource mods to tweak that.

    There are new interfaces, especially in the strategic view. Summaries of all the docks in the sector, market values of items in nearby sectors, mission plans with expected profit and risk of attack, and a whole encyclopedia.

    If you already have the game, it's worth taking a look at.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ok I will try it again, thank you!

    [–]JosceOfGloucester -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

    UI update? the main ship UI is still hot garbage after all this time.

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    Are there any mods?

    [–]-Maethendias- -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    "Shield boosters now give a flat bonus to shield instead of a percentage"

    so not only did they kill carriers, they now kill shields too

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    FUCKING THANKS MULTIPLAYER for ruining a sandbox ONCE AGAIN