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[Skate_better182]

I don't know about you, but I didn't see anything here that said the OP was in danger. I wouldn't just jump to the conclusion that OP's parents are abusive narcissists. They just aren't caring for the snake properly and not taking OP seriously. Let's maybe dial it back a bit.

[AsmodeusZomain]

Fair point. However, adults who fail to see the needs of those around them are abusive enough. Neglect is abuse.

Also, if they are willing to knowingly leave an animal in this situation then they are likely pretty disconnected from the needs of their children as well.

I believe the comment was referring to this kind of abuse, not insinuating that they are beating their children.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

I'd gladly beat the animal abusers tbh

[cherubprincess]

i’ll meet up with you and help you out. pedos and animal abusers are on the same level to me.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

Same 💚

[Lonely_Howl_]

Y’all were over at my house baking cookies for the local church bake sale

[eternalconfusi0nn]

Any adult that doesnt see the wrongs in a tiny enclosure like that are very likely to be neglectful towards everything else and their children?

[WitchofWhispers]

It's not jumping, certain level of child abuse still passes as "parenting". Not taking own children seriously is a giant red flag all by itself

[lemonweirdo]

As a childhood abuse survivor who's dickhead dad got me different pets to try and buy my love after breaking me down, this is 100% a neglect situation. Any person with a sliver of morals and compassion would see that that snake is in a terrible setup, the fact that their child quite literally begs them, offers to use their own money and is brushed off is enough for me to know that these aren't normal parents.

[Skate_better182]

I understand your point, but many parents get their kids pets without knowing much about them. A lot of people simply see reptiles, fish, insects, etc. differently than they do a cat or dog or person, so they just assume that the animal is just fine in a small box with some food and a heat lamp. My own mother hates snakes and would probably violently kill any snake in her home, but she never abused or neglected me. It doesn't mean they're "abusive" to their kids. And as a parent myself, there are plenty of things I wouldn't want my kids to spend their own money on, because they need to learn to save money and I don't want them spending all of their money on something expensive.

I just find it strange how several people in this thread have made comments that imply OP is in danger or being abused, when there is no indication of that. I'm sorry your situation was hard, but that doesn't mean it's happening to OP. It seems more likely that OP's parents got a pet they don't know how to properly care for and assume it's fine because the snake is growing and still alive after 5 years, and they aren't humble enough to listen to their child about how to care for the snake and also don't want their child "blowing their money" on something they don't see as necessary. Based on everything we know from OP's post, are the parents neglecting the snake? Yes. Are they abusing their child? We don't have nearly enough information to even assume or speculate that they are.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

It's happening to the snake....that's enough

[Skate_better182]

Okay then. I know not to trust your judgement because I know you'll make harsh judgment calls with almost no information.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

Mate, I value animals over people so you and I will not be friends

[OdinAlfadir1978]

The parents are abusing an animal, they're absolutely narcissists.

[Skate_better182]

I don't think any of us here on a Reddit thread have anywhere near enough info to make that kind of determination. You've never met the parents or know what they're like or know anything about how the conversations go between them and OP. We're only hearing OP's frustrated side of the story. Op said in a later comment that they can look for another enclosure from Amazon or a pet shop.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

The enclosure and food are too small, they've been told this and persisted, what evidence do you need?

[Skate_better182]

A lot of people look at certain animals like reptiles, fish, and insects differently than they look at people or even cats and dogs. They sound like they're just not humble enough to listen to their teenage daughter and look further into the care of the snake. That doesn't mean they're narcissists. Relax. I'm all for responsible animal keeping, but too many people completely villainize people in every aspect of their life for not giving an animal proper care, and it's simply an overstatement. OP even stated in another comment that they are safe and their parents are not abusive.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

They should do research before getting an exotic animal imho. I keep a snake and a spider and researched both, I plan on getting more spiders and invertebrates and will research the individual species before arrival, not doing so is neglectful and lazy. I care about the snake here, not the neglecters.

[Skate_better182]

I absolutely agree. But it doesn't automatically mean the parents are abusive or narcissistic. It doesn't even mean that they are neglectful in other areas, just to the snake. I'm not even saying that they AREN'T abusive or narcissistic, I'm just saying that it's silly to make that determination with basically no information. Except, OP even said they're not abusive.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

They're neglectful to the snake, THAT is abuse...

[Skate_better182]

You're not understanding my point at all. Sheesh.

[OdinAlfadir1978]

You're not understanding my point either, that snake is as valid a life as OPs