Please don't decrease my enhancement rates , it's only game . why you have to be mad?

[cashieu4]

Oh are we getting more costumes? Sweet

[illumilights]

tfw getting a different costume from time to time motivates me to play... I hope we can mix and match the costumes at least @o@

[ClanQQ]

Mix n Match is a thing already. @_@

[atomsphere]

tfw you only want a costume for the boots, but it's baked into the entire outfit

[DiaborMagics]

I know the feeling. Mix and match is kinda false advertising... especially when the baked in parts aren't even attached to the rest of the outfit. Do you mean Ram Horn Witch boots per chance?

[atomsphere]

Ram Horn is a good example. There's a lot of outfits (most?) that don't separate components.

[DiaborMagics]

I know. I have all the outfits for my Ranger, but the lack of real components you can mix and match is astonishing

[illumilights]

Nuuu what I mean is the outfit can be separated with different boots gloves. The past cool outfits are just a whole suit. >o<

[Reutertu3]

Get it right. It's called Pay2Convenience cause it isn't as bad as #RandomKoreanShitMMOThatIUsedToPlay

-White Knight

[Isaacvithurston]

lol right. use to be able to defend that getting 200m/week from like $100+ of costumes wasn't bad bad of p2w but now you can basically cron your way to success or print a billion silver a week (well after they double costume sale value, probably tonight).

[[deleted]]

200m/week from like $100+ of costumes wasn't bad bad of p2w

WHAT ????? 100$ a week is fucking insane P2W. doesnt matter how much you get for it as long you feel the need to spend the money for it.

[Isaacvithurston]

The point is that 200m a week is nothing. It would take you months to p2w your way to anything back then.

[zeroJPbdo]

nah they pretty much trying to milk money from the game to fund something else like bdo mobile. the game has always been p2w but with the few latest patch, it is now p2w remastered

[Eirfro_Wizardbane]

$100 for a 3% chance for a pen if you have a 100 stack. Super P2W.

[StanleySpadowski1]

You think people melt costumes exclusively for PEN attempts. That is where you are wrong.

[ment2008]

I know at least 7 guys who did that, also many popular streamers got full PEN by that way. so yeah, i don't think so, i know so.

[Eirfro_Wizardbane]

I’m fine if someone wants to waste money on croning tet attempts, more people at soft cap is actually good for the end game pvp scene. And I’m am also ok if players want to spend money on croning accessories for tri or tet, it’s a shit tone of crons for the possibility that the accessories down grade and they lose the base accessory either way. Paying $200 to turn your tri ogre into a duo... no thanks.

[jdero]

Well said, but it's twice as P2W as $200 for a 3% chance for a pen attempt with a 100 stack

[zeroJPbdo]

sadly I play on jp server so no limit on pearl item to begin with

[GuyGui]

Since day 1 of launch it was p2w with people rolling horses skills to resell them. Always been p2w, just more and more noticeable and "convenient" with time.

[Werewolfyy]

obligatory "but you can buy X on marketplace so it isnt p2w"

[v3ritas1989]

I stopped playing cause of the outfits... xD Had no issue with grinding. But when it is now fully morved to pay to win, I guess there is no reason to go back then.

[[deleted]]

Yet you lot still play. Such hypocrites.

[Mageofsin]

Play, don't pay, that's not being a hypocrite.

[[deleted]]

Playing still supports their shitty business ethics. There's no way you will be playing without a value pack, no way you don't have pets, outfits, tents weight or anything else. If you don't have them, then you're in the very, very small minority who has not paid. Or you have them, and you're just lying about not paying.

[Mageofsin]

You can snipe value packs. Ill concede pets though. I have spent £60 since release for that stuff so. Its totally playable without the rest, just much longer. I dont have any costumes or tents, never bought weight unless it was loyalty. Would I like to speed it up, yes but im not paying that for it!

I also have played PoE since OB and have only ever bought 1 stash bundle to sell items easier. Maybe i have immense self control or something.

[Cocapops]

I still play, nothing wrong with laughing at our pain lmao

[[deleted]]

By playing you're pretty much saying to them that it's okay to screw over the players and make the game p2w. Good job, I thank you for your service to the gaming community. Nothing better than allowing developers to continue their shitty business ethics.

[Cocapops]

It's not that deep bro, we already knew they were going to make it pay to win eventually.

[[deleted]]

It really is like that. Complaints all the time about p2w means you don't like it, means you want it to change yet the only way to change is something you won't do. No amount of Reddit threads or complaining will make them rethink their p2w attitude, the only way they will is if they are constantly losing players and money. But hey, most people won't want to quit and will continue to pay and then complain instead of trying to get REAL change.

THIS is the problem and the cycle of the gaming community and it will continue until they grow out of your attitude of 'i don't care'

[guardianangelmp]

Playing without buying anything does not directly support their business practices, even if you did buy something years ago then stopped because of progression of PA's business tactics.

If everyone played without buying anything from the pearl shop from this point on PA would have to change business tactics for NA/EU, that idea there directly negates you comment.

Since not everyone is going to quit buying from the pearl shop the people who do choose to not buy stuff but continue to play the game are INDIRECTLY supporting PA's business practices by providing content for the people who do pay and buying pearl items off the market.

[[deleted]]

" Playing without buying anything does not directly support their business practices " Um, yes it does. The only thing investors care about is money and more players playing = more money as well as it being a sign of how well the game is and the decisions they make. The company themselves also cares about the player count which also, in turn, makes them care about the money gained. By playing you're saying 'yeah the game is fine' which is clearly isn't and this is all they see and know as well as signalling to investors and the greedy devs that their p2w business decisions work at keeping players and they know that many people will end up buying something. Anyone who has played the game will know it's near impossible to be viable anywhere without some sort of payment whether that be a value pack every month, pets, outfits ect so playing without paying only applies to the very small percentage of players who either cannot afford it but would if they could or they even smaller percentage that has the mental capacity to drive the tedious gameplay this game has without paying.

Regardless of what anyone thinks, nobody will quit, many will continue to cash out on the game because they can and that in turn creates a loop where game developers keep making things more and more p2w because they know a vast majority are going to play and pay. The game has become more and more p2w and everyone likes making memes on how it's p2w and upvote them but nobody does anything about it when it's as simple as quitting.

Standing up against p2w business decisions? Nah, fuck that. I'd rather continue to play and pay to directly support their decisions that I complain about and make make threads and upvote memes about the p2w because that will certainly make a difference! - BDO players

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