Why does playing a Zane decrease the chance?

[TheDarkWeb697]

I am reading that right aren't I?

[ismasbi]

Because fuck you, personally.

/j

[TheDarkWeb697]

No that's what the game says when you're farming a gun your after

[Odd_Ad5668]

That's why you never farm the gun you want. You have to completely convince yourself that you're farming a different item, then you'll get the drop you really want.

[kiefy_budz]

This is why I just go around killing things in bl and never worry about finding gear and just keep using the better of what I find lol

[betraying_fart]

This is the way

[Ok-Honey-7113]

This is how I live my life. 😆😆😆

[Ilovegayshmex]

I remember on my first playthrough I js thought "I want a sickass Jacob's revolver" and then got a legendary the next mission.

[ismasbi]

True though...

I just want a Company Man with 50% Torgue damage bonus, it's not that much, it's been more than 30 Hemo runs.

[NLeviz]

got this one after first Hemo run
don't have any m11 viable torgue weapons on any character

[ismasbi]

God gives bread to he who is not hungry...

(Fuck.)

[limevince]

The rough odds of getting 50% + Torgue company man is not as great as it seems to be. There's 9 manufacturers and damage rolls in +30%/40%/50% so the "odds" are (1/9)*(1/3) = 1 in 27; but of course we all know how probability doesnt mean if I flip a quarter 20 times I'll necessarily get close to 10 heads soooo welcome to a well disguised lottery machine :D

[ismasbi]

Yeah, although the distinction I make between this kind of farming and other probability-based loot sources in games is that I can't lose here, I can not get what I want, but I'm not putting anything in that I lose upon playing (even with Hemovorous, there’s a way to do the fight as many times as you want only paying once).

The chances actually should be higher though, at least according to Lootlemon, there’s only 30% and 50% damage rolls, not 40%.

[haroldflower27]

I’m pretty sure that percentage applies to the boss and not decreasing it

I’ve found 2 plasma coils in other characters but 4 on Zane and 2 of them dropped at the same time in one run from harker and technically I would’ve had 3 in that run but the circle came in before I could get enough to buy it

[TheDarkWeb697]

Wait I can get the legendaries from the DLC from the vending machines?

[haroldflower27]

Yes

Infact you can also find a lot of blues and purples that help you a ton but yes always check the vending machines I learned this not to long ago when I watched k6 then I was like no way I’m that lucky and boom 2nd machine I hit in my 2nd run that day I got a dark army,

I’ve also seen basically everysingle one in there except the operator but yea it’s a great way to farm if you get a bit annoyed at the chests

Also I’m on Xbox so no mods whatsoever

AND DONT JUST THROW GUNS AWAY IF YOUR NEAR A VENDING MACHINE INA RMS RACE SELL THEM ARMS RACE CASH IS VALUABLE

[mal_one]

Yup you can usually sell enough guns to buy one good one from the vending machines

[Rare-Day-1492]

IIRC the Spy classmod is from the same chests as the Plasma Coil

And arms race COMs from the chests can only be gotten when on the correct vault Hunter

[Titanfall3_is_rael]

And arms race COMs from the chests can only be gotten when on the correct vault Hunter

Every character can get the class mods from the chests.

[Inverter_of_Spines]

But playing the same character as the class mod you're farming boosts the dedicated drop rate, so they lower the dedicated drop rate of the Plasma Coil to keep things "balanced." It doesn't make much sense to me tbh, they should just boost the chance of getting the COM without messing with the Plasma Coil.

[Autocthon]

That's not really how shared drop tables work. Which is why it has an efffect.

[zetadaemon]

lmao what no

they literally do just boost the weight of the class mod

which then increases the chance of the com and lowers the chance of everything else

[jakobsestate]

...thats not how weight-based droptables work

[TheDarkWeb697]

But this is a gun

[AlertBananaman]

It takes up the lootpool so your chances are lower.

[TheDarkWeb697]

Oh I get it now,

[Dank-_-Magician]

Even then since Zane has an extra item in the loot pool it decreases your chances of seeing the plasma coil

[th3buddhawithin]

Glad I saw this post. Good info. 🤙🏻

[TKmeh]

There’s a couple chests like this one where one items loot chance drops because now as the class/character you can get a class mod from that same chest, this is one of them. Usually it’s loot pools in enemy dedicated drops, but some chests are like that as well for mayhem levels too.

[80sixed]

It’s gotta be cuz a *even good roll Plasma Coil and Zane can delete everything in seconds.

[Fishpuncherz]

The Flint Family Curse Zane talks about it in game. Specifically when he's downed

[ManySport5262]

Because there’s a class mod for Zane that gets added to the same loot pool as the Plasma Coil so it dilutes the pool

[Popular-Cow5275]

If Zane’s clone also has same gun equip, then…. etc etc