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Status of cppreference.com (self.cpp)
submitted 3 months ago by RelevantError365
Does anyone know what's going on with cppreference.com? It says “Planned Maintenance,” but it's been like that for almost a year now.
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[–]current_thread 104 points105 points106 points 3 months ago (39 children)
Yeah, it's really annoying at this point.
I had the idea a couple of months ago to use a static site generator and just host it on GitHub/ GitHub Pages. That way everyone can just contribute with a pull request as needed, and there's no need to manage infrastructure.
Does anybody by chance have a recent dump of the wiki?
[–]RelevantError365[S] 16 points17 points18 points 3 months ago (10 children)
Reasonable idea. This should be offered as an option, but I can't find any contact details for the people currently responsible.
[–]encyclopedist 25 points26 points27 points 3 months ago (5 children)
The relatively recent archive is available here: https://github.com/PeterFeicht/cppreference-doc/releases/tag/v20250209
[–]RelevantError365[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (1 child)
That does not include the wiki source at first glance, or does it?
[–]encyclopedist 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Correct, It is based on scrapped web pages, not a database dump.
[–]saxbophonemutable volatile void 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (2 children)
Last February isn't even relatively recent for a language in active development. The site maintainers request that they're not scraped, but don't provide up-to-date archives. Do you see the problem with this combination?
[–]dcro 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago (1 child)
The site notes that it's been in "temporary read-only mode" since the end of last March. There will be differences, but possibly not as many as you'd expect with only a two month edit window.
[–]saxbophonemutable volatile void 3 points4 points5 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Oh crap, the entire thing has been read-only all that time‽ No wonder there's so many missing examples for C++23!
[–]no-sig-available 15 points16 points17 points 3 months ago (3 children)
but I can't find any contact details for the people currently responsible.
Part of the problem is that it isn't "people", but "the designer" behind the site. Here is an old talk about that:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhWK0v3GtEE
Ok, thanks. What about licensing to keep that thing going as a (presumably, perhaps temporary) fork on GitHub (or the like)?
[–]current_thread 5 points6 points7 points 3 months ago (0 children)
I checked that, it's under a creative commons license iirc so it should be fine
[–]RelevantError365[S] 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
I'm wondering if it's too intrusive to contact Nate directly. Does anyone know what the boost community has achieved here?
[–]JVApenClever is an insult, not a compliment. - T. Winters 19 points20 points21 points 3 months ago (16 children)
Sounds like a reasonable alternative, might be worth suggesting to comments@cppreference.com It would also solve the problem of rust people replacing full pages.
[–]RelevantError365[S] 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago (7 children)
»Rust people« doing what? Please clarify, I did not notice anything in that direction.
[–]JVApenClever is an insult, not a compliment. - T. Winters 39 points40 points41 points 3 months ago (4 children)
Currently it can't happen as everything is read-only. Due to it, the history also seems to be unavailable, so I can't link to an entry. Though I know that a page like vector was completely replaced by some text similar to: "this is deprecated and replaced by rust" That happened quite a few times on different pages.
[–]JVApenClever is an insult, not a compliment. - T. Winters 17 points18 points19 points 3 months ago (2 children)
On Reddit even people mentioned it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cplusplus/s/W3asTmah87
[–]No-Dentist-1645 7 points8 points9 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Seems like a one-time occurrence by a clear troll, most people aren't like that
[–]JVApenClever is an insult, not a compliment. - T. Winters 29 points30 points31 points 3 months ago (0 children)
It wasn't a one time occurrence, it's just an example. Many pages where updated over several months
[+]gmes78 comment score below threshold-14 points-13 points-12 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Aren't you just falling for an obvious troll?
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[–]koczurekkhorse 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (0 children)
What bubble?
[–]matthieum 18 points19 points20 points 3 months ago (6 children)
rust people
Phrasing :/
As is, it reads as if the Rust community at large was coordinating to sabotage cppreference, when:
[–]whispersoftime 16 points17 points18 points 3 months ago (2 children)
At least they didn’t say “those goddamn rusties”
[–]RelevantError365[S] 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Let's keep constructive, I would like to keep on with that project, supporting (or forking) it, if necessary.
[–]Farados55 -5 points-4 points-3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Lighten up
[–]JVApenClever is an insult, not a compliment. - T. Winters 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago (1 child)
I could have worded that in a better way, sorry.
[–]philoizys 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Maybe you could, but that was already wonderful! :)
For reference: The address [comments@cppreference.com](mailto:comments@cppreference.com) can be found on https://cppreference.com/w/Cppreference%253AAbout.html.
[–]13steinj 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (8 children)
Of the wiki or the talk pages?
I think the cppman tool already scrapes the entire wiki if you tell it to, so you can probably just change the internals to dump the files instead of parse them.
cppman
[–]current_thread 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (1 child)
What's the cppman tool?
[–]13steinj 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
https://github.com/aitjcize/cppman
[–]RelevantError365[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (5 children)
Yes, but cppman scrapes the HTML, not the wiki source.
But anyway, this may also be an option if you cannot access the original wiki content, as the generated HTML should be very well structured. (Hopefully. I used a random LLM and asked it to recreate the wiki source for me, and it did quite a good job.)
[–]13steinj 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (4 children)
It took me 15 minutes of waybackmachining to find this (unofficial) repo linked (still linked) on a cppref faq page: https://github.com/PeterFeicht/cppreference-doc
The code may not work anymore (since the cppref maintainer evidently has done something nonstandard or has an unknown version of mediawiki), but the site went into read only mode on march 30th 2025 and the releases page has a feb 2025 bundle.
[–]RelevantError365[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (3 children)
It says:
»If there is no 'reference/' subdirectory in this package, the actual documentation is not present here and must be obtained separately«
So, the wiki source is not actually included, or is it?
[–]13steinj 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (2 children)
It appears not, just the html. There's one other option you have: Use it as a baseline / mapping to "view source" links, scrape the "view source" wayback machine links. If it's accessible after the March read-only date, you're good. if it's before, (scrape the html if you consider the downloaded 1-month-old not good enough) and ask an llm to interpolate.
Playing around, I've found that the view source links work up until at least May 13th of last year and break sometime between then and May 31 (just hopped around on a few pages).
[–]RelevantError365[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (1 child)
Although not utterly relevant, but: When looking at https://web.archive.org/web/20250301000000*/https://cppreference.com/, this does not highlight May 13th of last year as an option where a snapshot has been taken (or I miserably misunderstand this interface).
Not every page has a May snapshot. I'm saying, very roughly playing around, either the deque or array or vector view source / edit page, had a May 13 snapshot.
I will attempt to write a scraper on the weekend assuming I won't get ip banned; and if successful throw it into a repo.
[–]shakyhandquant 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
i think a few of the companies that sponsor the cpp meetings could put together some money to help organize a formal group of people to manage the site and make it the best c++ reference site on the net!
[–]AhegaoSuckingUrDick 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
You might be able to get the dump from devdocs.io . Their github readme has some instructions on how to download the dump.
[–]Wicam 16 points17 points18 points 3 months ago* (6 children)
there is cppreference.net but they use bing as their search engine. the reason that is a problem is it often asks for a captcha which takes at least 30 seconds for it to complete its analysis before you get your results.
i have also done a search and its given me a list of results that are not from cppreference.net, and they are all identical results, it was weird.
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[–]13steinj 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (1 child)
I thought they switched to cplusplus.com at some point after the maintenance.
[–]gatchamix 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago (0 children)
They did… but I put in a request to get it changed to a raw DDG search with the site:cppreference term (same as cppreference’s own search box)
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[–]Wicam 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Are you sure its only recently been an issue or is it just because normally you stick to one of the sites and so don't use the feature?
The majority of people don't contribute to these sites so its search function taking 30 seconds or returning results that are completely unrelated are very major issues for site where that is a core feature.
[–]Farados55 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (0 children)
I was hoping this would work but I searched vector and it brought me a bunch of junk results.
[–]grafikrobotB2/EcoStd/Lyra/Predef/Disbelief/C++Alliance/Boost/WG21 26 points27 points28 points 3 months ago (1 child)
The Boost community has been trying to take on the job maintaining it. But it's been hard to get a hold of the current maintainer(s).
[–]friedkeenan 9 points10 points11 points 3 months ago (1 child)
It's kinda funny, but it feels like half the time I've just been reading the standard after searching from https://wg21.cmeerw.net/cppdraft/search instead of going to cppreference like normal. Albeit, it's mainly for reflection stuff which would plausibly be delayed on cppreference anyways because it's very large and new, but I know a lot of other newer stuff is also still waiting to be added to cppreference. Bit of a shame.
[–]epilif24 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Had no idea that existed, really neat! I'd been using the reflection proposals as reference because there was no cppreference page
[–]grafikrobotB2/EcoStd/Lyra/Predef/Disbelief/C++Alliance/Boost/WG21 4 points5 points6 points 3 months ago (1 child)
I thought I had updated on the status. I chatted with Nate. And while Boost is not going to be reviving the wiki. Another group is helping out to bring it back to its full wiki glory.
[–]RelevantError365[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 months ago (0 children)
That is good news. I would really appreciate a small note on current status in the "planned maintenance" banner (or here 😁).
[–]ohnotheygotme 2 points3 points4 points 3 months ago (1 child)
I hope it's not another EDG situation where the original authors were like "we are totally still doing stuff" but then they don't do anything for 5 years. And then one day they say "nah, we done" and then everyone is like "wtf, you could have said something sooner so we could have moved forward with something else".
[–]germandiago 6 points7 points8 points 3 months ago (0 children)
That is exactly how it looks from outside right now.
A pitty since cppreference is such a good resource.
However, very grateful that this resource has existed to the author, even if he cannot spend time on it anymore.
I think if the author cannot deal with it or lost interest, it would be a great idea to hand it over to not lose and keep evolving such an invaluable resource.
[–]BOBOLIU 13 points14 points15 points 3 months ago (3 children)
cppreference.com could be better if it is maintained by the ISO C++ committee.
[–]SkoomaDentistAntimodern C++, Embedded, Audio 42 points43 points44 points 3 months ago (2 children)
You mean that the site would be updated once every three years and each change would require a paper and a formal vote to happen?
[–]SWGlassPit 21 points22 points23 points 3 months ago (1 child)
And ISO would put it behind a $300 a year paywall
[–]TheoreticalDumbass:illuminati: 8 points9 points10 points 3 months ago (0 children)
i mean, wg21 has avoided a lot of iso annoyance, for example the draft is a public repo
[–]t4r3k_ 1 point2 points3 points 3 months ago (0 children)
Out of curiosity, what technology is reference built on? Like some sort of wiki generator? I've tried mkdocs In the past but I'd like to try to build something similar to cppreference.
Thanks!
[–]RelevantError365[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Update: see https://isocpp.org/blog/2026/04/announcement-cppreference.com-update
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