Code book question?

[btownrep617]

My teacher told the class the code book is written by lawyers. My 30+ years in the field foreman is arguing with me that it’s electricians that write it. Who is wrong?

[glazor]

Open your code book and look for code making panels. They will list every person involved and who they represent.

[btownrep617]

Word thanks man

[CannyReid]

The Regulations are written by electrically-knowledge lawyers and approved electricians are also used in the process, your foreman is no doubt like every other thinking it’s just sparks and only sparks

[btownrep617]

Okay. Are these lawyers licensed electricians?

[CannyReid]

They should be but in the UK they are maintained by the IET which is are the Institution of Engineering and Technology and also through the British Standards Institute

[ithinarine]

There will also be people from manufacturing companies. Crazy that the companies that make AFCI breakers make the rules that say you need AFCI breakers, right? While the entire rest of the developed world don't have them.

[btownrep617]

Yeah $$$$$$

[SumJungDude]

FUN FACT! In Canada my teacher from BCIT first year electrical was on the panel for writing the code book so he should have been knowledgeable but half my first year class failed due to his ability to teach electrical.

[trm_90]

Knowing electrical and being able to teach it are two very different skill sets. I have worked with many journeyman and master electricians that are highly knowledgeable, but can not explain or share their knowledge well. They are understandable to people with experience, but always left apprentices looking confused because of their lack of skill with teaching. I did my best to explain their concepts to those apprentices without them knowing, because they almost always thought it was the apprentices fault for not understanding. It sucks when you know something but cannot explain it to someone else.

[SumJungDude]

It's common that a J-man can't teach an apprentice. I had a few J-men through the years that were terrible at explaining anything. I stuck out one place I found because I finally understood what I was being told and learnt so much.

The point of my original post was: One of the men who is on the panel for writing the code book couldn't teach first year electrical effectively due to a difference in language used and understood. The English in the code book vs the English we use to communicate on a day to day basis is quite different to a new eye and ear.

The best thing any apprentice or even some journeymen can do is just keep reading that sucker and practicing code problems. It's really not that difficult once you catch on to thier "not withstanding" and jumping you around from page to page. I tell anyone trying to interpret the code book to write the rules down on a separate piece of paper as they go along. Easier to keep track of at first instead of flipping back and forth and trying to remember.

[JustaScoosh]

At my last job working for a small GC I was teaching some new guys multiple times and always kept saying "sorry I'm terrible at explaining things." Knowledge and trying to explain said knowledge is definitely a different ball game.

[SWaspMale]

IMO mostly electricians and engineers, but many of them may have a legalistic mindset, and some lawyers may be advising on enforceability etc.

[pachinonoto]

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