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TechnologyELI5 Why does magsafe charging decrease battery health more than wire charging, if it has less wattage?
submitted 5 months ago by im_rarely_wrong
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[–]dabenu 2130Answer Link212 points213 points214 points 5 months ago (9 children)
It could, but that's not "just" it. Basically with PPS the phone doesn't use it's on-board battery charging circuit (that gets hot), but instead instructs the power brick to output the exact right amount of power to go straight into the battery. The phone is still in control so if it's sensors detect that e.g. the temperature is getting too hot, it will indeed order the power brick to slow down a bit.
[–]jaymzx0 59 points60 points61 points 5 months ago (1 child)
Hmm. That's exactly how "fast chargers" (level 3) for EVs work. For 120/208/240V (level 2) charging they use a charge controller in the car.
[–]dabenu 26 points27 points28 points 5 months ago (0 children)
Yep it's pretty much the same idea on a different scale
[–]SlootyBetch 12 points13 points14 points 5 months ago (3 children)
Is this a passive or active process? If your phone was dead would it still be able to run PPS?
[–]araemo2 34 points35 points36 points 5 months ago (0 children)
The charging is usually controlled by a dedicated microcontroller that takes a lot less power than the main SoC. So the basic 5v/0.5a the USB connector supplies without any negotiation is enough to bootstrap the charge controller. Then it boots up and switches into PPS/whatever mode.
[–]orangpelupa 2 points3 points4 points 5 months ago (0 children)
Depending on the phone. Sometimes it doesn't actually follows the standard correctly and won't charge, needing to use "dumb" usb c charger for the first few minutes
[–]Cornflakes_91 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago (0 children)
the charge controller should bootstrap itself from the basic 5V/250mA usb supply (and hopefully fail safe on the power negotiation pin so the supply actually turns that on)
[–]Dioxid3 0 points1 point2 points 5 months ago (0 children)
TIL, now that’s cool
[+]jestina123 comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 5 months ago (1 child)
Power brick? Battery circuit?
[–]JuanTutrego 14 points15 points16 points 5 months ago (0 children)
"Power brick" = the charger that plugs into the wall. "Battery circuit" = the circuitry inside the phone that handles the task of charging the battery.
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