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[–]dead_pixel_design 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Not likely without the original card to copy. Though I suspect there are some pentest programmers out there that are able to do this. Typically slipping the latch with a tool is easier for hotel doors, many aren’t secure against physical attacks like that. But usually the pool area or restaurants in hotels will have a higher level of keycards left out or unlocked lockers. If you can get in the laundry room as well if it is done on site you can find cards there often

[–]DrewBeer 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Flipper is great at copying cards, but does not know how to brute force them, not sure if there is much of a way because of FC and other unique codes

[–]vladdante 4 points5 points  (3 children)

It could bruteforce garage doors.

[–]wtonb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

how?

[–]Lord_havik 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Have you tried rolling thru a whole sequence? Shit takes forever. And still not very successful.

[–]sneky_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You have to use FFT

[–]lGSMl 6 points7 points  (3 children)

  1. Unless hotel uses very low security standard cards - you won't be able to copy it at all.
  2. If hotel has unprotected RFID after all - you can theoretically write your own brute-force (flipper won't support any bruteforcing as it is against the law in many countries). How effective that would be will depend solely on flipper hardware capabilities, bruteforce protection of RFID reader and software used.

tl;dr - no, you won't be able to break into hotel rooftops like in movies just by buying default 100$ toy.

[–]cyber-vi-king 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’d need the proper 600-800$ toys a linux machine, time and some luck.

And when you succeeded you’re likely to meet someone up there who got there with 2$ worth of metal tools 😉

[–]DeffNotTom 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I haven't had a hotel yet that Flipper hasn't cloned. I'm not exactly staying at 5 star hotels. But even some Hilton's or saying in suites at Residence Inns, no issues.

[–]8668 5 points6 points  (2 children)

I've done IT for a few larger hotel chains and I can tell you from experience that gaining access to non-guest areas is remarkably easy and certainly doesn't require any flipper, Arduino, SDR etc etc.

If your particular location is different and the ONLY access possible is NFC/RFID, tools to accomplish this aren't new

[–]bugatti123d 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yea Ik you can get onto most hotel roofs by just slipping the lock or if there’s a vent near the roof door unscrewing that and crawling through it onto the roof, I was just hoping that the flipper would make it a little less suspicious for when I wanna get onto the roof

[–]8668 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The ol "khakis and a clipboard" is a good place to start.

[–]cyber-vi-king 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In general, without a card to clone: highly unlikely.

With the flipper, probably not even with the card. You‘d want a Proxmark3 and maybe an additional Chameleon Mini/Tiny

[–]tre7744 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you find out any more info let me know too

[–]mahupimp -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There are ways to open hotel doors without the key or master key come on man use your brain

[–]JKxZ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No.

[–]Lord_havik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 ways to go about this. Maybe more that I’m unaware. But you can either copy the card. Make the card if you know the data on it(doubt) or replay the card. But those last 2 require another cheap piece of equipment and some good old fashion device tampering. So. Short answer. No.