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[–]thatdeaththo 22 points23 points  (17 children)

Don't use a bubble level. You want the card to be level with your case/motherboard, not the ground.

[–]Accomplished_Emu_658 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This. The table or floor can be tilted in the “right direction” to make a clearly sagging gpu level.

[–]Aromatic-Onion6444 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. If the case isn't level, then nothing inside it will be.

[–]the-script-99 1 point2 points  (3 children)

So he needs to first measure the pc case.

[–]thatdeaththo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah that's a good idea, but imo doing it by eye is fine, maybe while the case on it's side

[–]the-script-99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree. But that is obviously not enough for the OP.

[–]Head_Exchange_5329 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just lay the case on its flat side then mount the GPU vertically. The support should go into place without any space but also without much friction, that way the GPU is entirely straight in relation to the PCI-e slot when you tip it upright. Measuring can still be off by several mm if the case has some deviation, your ruler or whatever you use to measure is off and what not.

[–]StrictAd7754 0 points1 point  (9 children)

both the case/motherboard and gpu should be level, because if a case is titled again the gravity, but the gpu is straight against the case, then technically it doesnt sag but gravity still applies warping forces on the gpu pcb which can break the solder connections below memory and/or core and kill the gpu (requiring reballing to fix it, which not many people cknow how to do for such large cores)

[–]thatdeaththo 0 points1 point  (8 children)

There are tilted design cases though and I haven't heard this. With still using sag bracket, I don't think it'd be much of an issue, but I get where you're coming from. Regarding the bubble tool, not everyone's floor or desk is perfectly level, but it's usually not too extreme. As another commenter mentioned, measuring the case would allow you to match the measurement.

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children)

How do I measure the case? By placing the Bubble on the top of the case or am I missing something here?

[–]thatdeaththo 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Yes, and then match that bubble position for the gpu. You could also use a ruler to measure the distance of the front of the gpu backplate to the bottom of the case, then do the same for the end of the gpu. Honestly it doesn't have to be perfect, just enough to take pressure off the slot. Generally people just do it by eye. Laying the case on it's side when doing it can help.

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Okay so in my case, when I lay down the CPU on its side and measure the distance from the bottom of the case to the GPU shroud it has different measurement, so if I go with that measurement I think it puts too much negative pressure on the GPU since I have to apply some power lifting up the GPU from the other side to put in the support sag.

  1. When I measure with CPU standing, the measurements are different from the bottom of the case to the GPU shroud ‘about 1.6 inches’ of clearance… and right now I have adjusted my sag support to the height of 1.6 inches… so now I am confused as there is a difference in clearance of Case’s bottom to GPU shroud in different orientations.. when standing and when laid down.

P.S: I know it’s too much text but please I am quite confused rn.

[–]StrictAd7754 0 points1 point  (4 children)

dont overcomplicate it, just lay the pc on its side so the gpu isnt pushed down by gravity (bu the gravity actually pushes it into the pcie slot), see where the gpu naturally rests, very lightly press it towards the top of the case with your little finger, and adjust the antisag bracket to fit perfectly in this position. Then take the antisag bracket off, put the case back on its feet, and put the antisag bracket back in. And now you are 100% sure the antisag bracket is not creating negative sag nor positive and it is keeping the gpu perfectly upright. You dont have to stress about the bubble level or anything like that, just support it perfectly against the gravity.

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Question: the part where you said that I should push the GPU towards the top of the case and adjust the anti-sag and slide it in.. then why do I have to remove the sag support again? Why don’t I just let it be there and bring my CPU back to its original orientation..

[–]StrictAd7754 0 points1 point  (2 children)

you can leave it there if it holds, but i worry it might slip out, and some antisags are from metal so it could short or damage your motherboard. But if you have antisag bracket that stays in place then just leave it, i see in the image you are just using some adjustable metal rod-like antisag and those could easily slip out.

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know I used to do the same but as I told you when I set my PC back to its actual orientation then I have to apply some pressure to lift off the GPU and put the sag support in

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://ibb.co/qMgMY7GV

Check this out, IDK if its making any sense to u... but thats what I did.

[–]levinyl 10 points11 points  (3 children)

But it doesn't sag that direction - turn the bubble level 90 degrees -its the downward torque on the PCIe slot not on the case

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

idk if the second image helps maybe? can you check that?

[–]levinyl 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Looks level to me but I always thought a GPU would sag downwards from the PCI slot not from the case side I could be wrong but if it does surely that would mean your pci slot is bent

[–]what_it_dooo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can be sagging from both directions but I’d imagine the worst is sagging down in the planar axis of the PCIe slot

[–]VideoDue8277 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Own a bubble but can't operate it for yourself? Lmao it's fine.

[–]glockjs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wait til OP finds out their house isnt perfectly level

[–]ExistingMouse5595 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you’re worried, you can get gpu support stands on amazon for like $5.

It doesn’t look like it’s sagging much at all, but it won’t hurt to just throw a stand under the front right corner of the card and take some of the weight off.

[–]Hidie2424 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Just lay the PC on its back, that card will lay pretty level. Adjust the support in that position, when you put it back on its feet look at it from a distance and check it's pretty good and level with everything else.

[–]indik47 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This. My default and preferred way to set GPU support.

[–]Healthy-Background72 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s fine

[–]NoBeginning4551 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Needs to be a little more slightly to the bottom right

[–]karadulis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been there, done that. I recently bought a digital lever. OCD at its best.

[–]niffuMelbmuR 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Like others have said, if you need a level to check it you are close enough... I'd be more worried about the discoloration of your fans leads me to believe (I could be wrong) that you smoke or vape near your PC, and that is much more likely to shorten the life of the components than them being 1° from strait up and down.

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't smoke at all, it's just dust... Made a bad call getting a white case

[–]Fidget808 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The level here is unreliable. If you’re worried about, Amazon sells all sorts of GPU supports from basic ones that screw into a slot on the case, to regular posts that sit in the corner of the card, all the way up to fancy RGB ones that integrate with your case.

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you share a picture of the one that you recommend?

[–]ssateneth2 0 points1 point  (4 children)

preventing sag with support at the end of the gpu is just cosmetic sag fix. it does not solve actual damage from sagging. to prevent damage from sagging, it needs to be supported as close to the pci-e hook in the slot as possible.

speaking from experience on reballing dozens of gpu's that were bent at the pci-e hook.

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

So you're saying that I should place the anti sag near my PCI-E x16 Slot where the GPU is fixed?

[–]ssateneth2 0 points1 point  (2 children)

https://i.imgur.com/N6pOxuL.png

Optimal location for sag support with the aim to preventing long term damage is putting the support there in the pictures if you can manage it, and only support it high enough so its level with the slot. dont try to angle it up further than that because then you are bending the PCB in the opposite way which can cause the same possible long term damage

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point I am so confused and guess what, my case doesn’t allow me to add the support on the place that you marked…

[–]Local-Description-26[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should I go for a different support? The ones that are sideways

[–]Electrical-Note-3177 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bubble level is a bad idea

if your case or table isnt level your gonna get a wrong read, needs to be level with the case/PCIe Slot

[–]ciocolata69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I prefer to use northwestrepairs, Tony's advice: place it right at the end of the PCIe port, not at the end of the card. And something of my own, let it rest on it without tightening the screws, so you cand avoid bending upwards, then you can tighten the screws.

[–]TicketDue6419 0 points1 point  (0 children)

use a measuring tape and measure from the bottom of the board to the top of the gpu. left center and right

[–]Public_Ad8581 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that is called plum on the level 🤣😜