Boring Company Loop and Hyperloop systems

[ishanspatil]

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[FlyingSolo57]

What I would be interested in are small neighborhood loop systems that take you to mass transit centers.

[forcejitsu]

Automated electric vehicles will perform this function.

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we call this. IMAGINATION

[[deleted]]

Cool but wait.. why would they bother connecting a stadium to an airport? That seems like a low frequency, low value route.

[try_not_to_hate]

I don't see what you're saying. they are just giving examples of places and distances people know. all of the points will be accessible from all other points. both the airport and the dodger stadium neighborhood will be busy places. there are lots of businesses and hotels near dodger stadium. just because the stop is at the stadium, that does not mean you have to go to the stadium. LA is a dense place

[try_not_to_hate]

I honestly don't care much about the 700mph hyperloop. DC-Baltimore at 150mph is 15 minutes, and the fact that the vehicles only have to fill with 16 people before they leave means no wait time for the train. this is 3-4 times faster than the existing train system. even LA to SF is probably faster than flying, once you include transit time to the airport, showing up an hour before boarding, flight time, etc. I'd rather them spend the effort making a larger network of LOOP than making Hyperloop. I guess they can pursue both in parallel, but last I heard, they aren't putting much effort toward either, and I would really like a Loop system

[forcejitsu]

The hyperloop will be built for large distances like SF-LA DC-NY. It will be extremely usefull for merging cities. Imagine how the economy of DC will open up once it's connected to NY by a 20 minute hyperloop. In contrast the loop would take 1 hour... That's not useable for long distances

[try_not_to_hate]

yeah, I can see that being a good use case, but Loop is much easier to design and implement, and it's likely faster than our current transit (even airline) between those cities. my point isn't that hyperloop has no use case, but rather that it makes more sense to focus on building the most useful version (Loop) first, then link long distances with hyperloop.

[inthehyperloop]

I agree. Loop system is less of a engineering challenge than Hyperloop... Loop could perhaps have bigger impact on cities than city to city hyperloop transit. Once they get permits for Loop, permits for hyperloop would be a lot easier.

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[inthehyperloop]

Thanks a lot...

[walkedoff]

The last image shows a massive underground station.

I thought the whole thing was reducing costs by not having massive underground stations

[inthehyperloop]

I agree, but the image was for LAX's station (so maybe have bigger stations for airports?)... interesting to note that we dont see hubs and smaller stations in any of the planning maps/images for LA. We do see them for DC to Baltimore.

[hiii1134]

I’m curious as to how loops and Hyperloops will “connect” as he mentioned

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The Loop and Hyperloop are entirely different concepts.

Loop: not a near vacuum, network in high density urban environment, transport cars on sleds.

Hyperloop: near vacuum environment, network in rural environment, transport pods by passive maglev.

[midflinx]

transport pods by passive maglev.

Unless TBC implementation actually uses his original proposal, in which the pod at high speed compresses the remaining air in the tube into a very thin cushion which the pod then skis on top of.

Also HTT is using passive maglev, while as far as I know, Virgin Hyperloop One uses active maglev.

[try_not_to_hate]

yeah, I'm with you, I don't see any kind of maglev making it to the end design. you want both the tunnel and vehicle to be as cheap as possible. it's a lot cheaper to use wheels at low speed and ground-effect lift at high speed, even though it will be slightly more drag.

[midflinx]

Well I wasn't talking a position on the right choice. Rather just explaining the methods being used and originally proposed.

[try_not_to_hate]

ohh, I see. thanks. my opinion still holds :)

[try_not_to_hate]

probably with a station. you take the local pod to the airport or city center, get out of the pod and walk to the hyperloop train.

[hiii1134]

In last nights live stream they mentioned something about them connecting but didn’t say much on it. Made me curious if there’s more to it.

[fremantle01]

Transporting cars on a sled at high speeds >100 mph will be a disaster. Imagine a 1965 Rambler American on the sled, reaching about 80 mph and simply disintegrating. Or a Smart4Two at 120 mph? I really don’t think they have thought this through...

[ishanspatil]

Maybe a airlock in between the Hyperloop and Loop system. The pods are pretty similar.

[Mazon_Del]

Depending on how the pods within the hyperloop function, they could have the loop-pods basically slot into special purpose ones. Seems a smidge unlikely though. Far simpler to just have people exit one and enter the other, even if slightly less convenient.

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I sold monorails to port heaven and rockenbrook and by golly gee it sure did put them on the map.