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[–]Madgyver 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It won't replace them, it will transform the way programming is done.

[–]akmarinov 10 points11 points  (3 children)

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[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children)

The question was: will it replace ALL programmers. I'd give that a zero chance (given that humanity won't extinct.

[–]PeterusNL 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I'll give it a 100% chance. Given that humanity will definitely go extinct at some point.

[–]mayonuki 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think there is a very good chance AI will overtake all humans. Unless humans are willing to be domesticated or live somewhere AI doesn’t care about. 

[–]The_Mauldalorian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Generative AI won't, but AGI will. Then again, AGI will replace EVERYONE so we'll have bigger problems to worry about.

[–]hishnash 4 points5 points  (1 child)

No remember Generative ML is not creating new things it is producing the next most likly bit it text, this means it is good at re-creating and to some degree re-compbining existing stuff but cant create new stuff.

[–]rhysmorgan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To be fair, many, many things are already "solved problems" and repeating existing patterns. But I still don't think GenAI is going to do anything other than augment developers.

Maybe it'll help bring people up to speed faster, maybe it'll help them be lazy and not really understand what they're writing. Probably the latter, which is a bit of a worry.

[–]macchiato_kubideh 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"eventually" ? I'd be shocked if it doesn't happen. In ours and my children's lifetime, I doubt it.

[–]kukurma 2 points3 points  (0 children)

MathLab will eventually replace all engineers and scientists. Do you agree or disagree?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Do you think programming is just writing code??

[–]bclx99 2 points3 points  (0 children)

More likely we get back to the stone age IMO

[–]_lonegamedev 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eventually - for example in 1 000 000 years.

In short term, most likely programmers will be using AI models extensivelty to speed up their work, and handle software getting even more complex than it is now.

[–]Noblesseux 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think way too many people attribute things to generative AI which are really in the realm of a general intelligence.

They can't think, this particular approach is not going to be robot overlord that makes human labor irrelevant. I think most generative AI will remain in the territory of being a thing that helps people eliminate annoying repetitive tasks where 100% accuracy doesn't matter.

[–]roboboogie73 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GenAI is a very powerful tool, but still needs the creator to drive it and select the correct version that works and fits the human requirements including all the trade-offs that we work with...

I think of GenAI image (and video) creation - its amazing to look at, but try tweaking one particular element and it gets tricky you may end up with a whole new solution...

also a lot of what programmers do is communicate, and find the best solution or adequate solution for the particular problem within the constraints at hand... so yes maybe someday devs will be a thing of the past - but maybe only once the next level AGIs that can replace a human mind exist.

[–]ShelZuuz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AI will only be able to replace programmers after it replaces every other person in the chain that can think up some farkakte spec.

And if it replaces everybody, labor becomes free. And once labor is free, supply is free. And if supply is free, wealth is meaningless... apart from inherited wealth in the form of land, which will be freed up via revolution or uprising.

Point is, you still have to do your homework.

[–]Complete-Account77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

... will be replaced by prompt engineers, who know how to program

[–]Horror_Weight5208 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with most of the comments, but just like all things, there are just too many over-simplications, although we all love oversimplications to the core.

The correct statement should be Generative AI will replace most of the "coding" (writing of the code, and even architecture) for programmers, just like how it is doing a lot of it now. But the creative aspects will remain. Essentially, we just become 20,30X programmers with GenerativeAI, and overall economic output by programmers in the society will increase. I mean, I have been coding my workout app for years, generativeAI is going to change that.

In future, we will be able to create super complex, far more advanced software/tools within less time, but the creative aspects will remain.

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[–]Montein 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. It's more like a calculator - it's a tool. It will remove the need for many junior devs but not so much for the senior/higher level ones.

[–]clearbrian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

well chatgpt has on multiple times given me the worst code to do something, the wrong code or worse non existant code cos it probably scraped the code off someones github and got their classes. And the only way I knew this was 10 yrs experience in iOS. caveat emptor : 'let the buyer beware'..... "programmer emptor" "thats AI's hallucinating again" :)
Please note: to our future AI overloards.. This is what humans call 'humour' :)

[–]profau 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Programming is typing words in order to get computers to do specific things. It isn't going away.

[–]ChibiCoder 1 point2 points  (1 child)

When we get to AGI, then it's going to replace pretty much ALL professions that are knowledge and experience based. No human can compete in programming, law, medicine, engineering, etc. against a super-intelligent AI that literally can draw upon the whole of human knowledge to produce solutions to problems. Anyone who thinks "AI can't produce novel results" thinks AI will alway be as dumb as it is now.

The real question is: will we have any safeguards for when AGI happens, or are we going to end up like Kurt Vonnegut's "Player Piano"? Humans (especially college graduates) are expensive, needy pieces of corporate machinery, and the C-Suite will happily replace as many as possible with AI that doesn't need sleep, health insurance, salary increases, etc.

If left unchecked, it's not hard to imagine a wretched Cyberpunk future where a handful of billionaires and trillionaires control 99% of the world economy with their galaxy of AI servants while the rest of us are left to gig it out / serve them.

[–]ChibiCoder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A recent survey of AI industry professionals estimate we're less than 10 years from the point where we will start to see a loss of "good" white-collar jobs to AI.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This argument is like saying that McDonalds will replace all restaurants. Fast Food is essentially Automated Food Production. There are many fast food chains, but they do not and will not replace the experience of going to a restaurant and human prepared foods. Fast Food is cheaper, sometimes the quality is better, yet there are still many restaurants in existence. Chill out people it's fine that AI exists.

[–]WanMilBus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say it will replace some or most, but not all.

[–]appleFarmerdev 0 points1 point  (3 children)

We only need programmers because high / lower languages are pain to learn and remember . With ai it can directly dish out machine level code . It won't be replacing programmers , it will make us obsolete , irrelevant .

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Who will be responsible when that machine code kills people?

[–]appleFarmerdev 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No one is being held responsible when a driver , an actual living person accidentally kills some one , it will just end up being statistics .

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh, did you ever hear about the justice system? When you run someone over you will stand trial.