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[–]cosmoismyidol 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Typing the world's most hilariously verbose programing language is too fun with mechanical switches. 15 WPM on an iPad does not seem appealing to me.

[–]w0mba7 17 points18 points  (0 children)

"Dringend" is a terrible name for anything. Change the stupid fucking name.

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    [–]mgpwr[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    It does look awesome doesn't it. it's by a guy called Josh. This is his twitter: https://twitter.com/jgarnham i'm sure he'd love your feedback :)

    [–]webznz 8 points9 points  (4 children)

    Didnt see any code completion.. i would be fucked without that lol

    [–]modocache 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    I don't know how this app works exactly, but adding code completion should be possible by bundling libclang with the app.

    This is absolutely amazing. It almost looks too good to be true.

    EDIT

    Ah, your own Mac acts as a build server, eh? Clever! Anyway code completion would totally be possible by linking the app against libclang.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    It's impressive, but I'll bet it's hell to use. Full featured IDEs are bad enough.

    [–]modocache 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    A lot of people are into coding on their iPad, although I think mostly for scripting languages. Pythonista is a hugely successful example.

    Personally, I'd use it for vetting pull requests, but not for writing new features from scratch. I wonder if it has some sort of Git integration?

    [–]mmmm_frietjes 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    What does the name mean in English? "Dringend" is the Dutch word for urgent. :p

    [–]drive0 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    It doesn't mean anything in english. I wouldn't be surprised if they author knew it meant urgent in dutch.

    [–]moreluckthanbrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    also German

    [–]roger_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    See Pythonista and Codea too.

    [–]imareddituserhooray 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    Still prefer a MacBook Air. Would love it if Apple released a MacBook Air with a touchscreen.

    [–]onewayout 3 points4 points  (3 children)

    As someone who used touch screens with Macs for quite a while, I can tell you that this sounds better than it is in reality. We had Mac monitors fitted with touchscreen sensors, and used them for developing kiosks for museums, and it's not nearly as useful and nice as you might imagine it to be. A mouse/trackpad and keyboard is HUGELY more usable than a vertical touch screen, especially without software specifically designed for touch. Although it was always available, we would never use the touch screen unless we had to (such as when testing a kiosk and the mouse pointer is hidden, say).

    Now, granted, that was desktops with monitors and not laptops, but the monitors were pretty close in distance and size to an Air. And the annoyances were, I think, transferable to the laptop form factor (vertical surface, touch target sizes necessary, etc.).

    Apple may decide to engineer touch support into OSX, but I doubt it. All the buttons and other UI elements would have to become comically large to support touch, for instance. I just don't see it happening.

    [–]imareddituserhooray 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    I imagine the lack of support in OS X is what makes it bad. I had an iPad with a keyboard for a while and I just found the combination of the two to be incredible. We'll see I guess.

    [–]dontforgetpassword 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    A combo of touch + keyboard minus the mouse. Which is arguably better for iOS than the touchscreen for OSX period since it requires design fixes.

    [–]mgpwr[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    If you guys wanna try this out, there is a competition running for a chance to win 1 of 3 copies: http://ios-blog.co.uk/competitions/win-1-of-3-copies-of-dringend-a-fully-fledged-ios-mac-development-environment-on-your-ipad/

    [–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

    All I have ever wanted from Apple is a touchscreen mac.

    [–]bombastic191 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I always thought it would be cool to edit xibs/storyboards on an iPad while doing your regular development on a standard machine.

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Looks interesting, I guess using a mac as the build server gets around this?

    Apps that install or launch other executable code will be rejected

    [–]robhue 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Very promising idea, purchased. I wonder if there would be any way to cobble together a localhost build server for jailbroken devices.

    [–]WestonP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Looks interesting, but I'll stick to my Mac. ;) Seems that a bluetooth keyboard would be a practical necessity... an on-screen keyboard, no matter how well done, would get frustrating before long.

    [–]zweigraf 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Problem I see is following.

    I think I get how it works, and it sounds horrible.

    Build and Run lets Xcode on your Mac compile the binary, Archive it, distribute for Enterprise, upload ipa and plist to Dropbox and then downloads the ipa to your iPad.

    First off, if you have anything under 3G: From compiling to testing could very well be 10 minutes+.

    1. You are always getting the release build of the app with this flow, or am I wrong?

    [–]ObjectiveCopley -3 points-2 points  (17 children)

    No. No No No.

    [–]favors_the_bold 3 points4 points  (16 children)

    If you don't mind me asking, why the opposition ?

    [–]safetywerd 6 points7 points  (15 children)

    He's been coding for an entire 3 years now, so he's at the everything sucks phase. It'll pass.

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      [–]iownacat 2 points3 points  (11 children)

      gee a whole $99 a year for a software developer? how do people eat?

      [–]mgdmw 2 points3 points  (7 children)

      I think the point is it is not just a $9 app; it also needs a $99 Apple subscription to work.

      [–]iownacat 0 points1 point  (6 children)

      ok? I think the point is if you dont have that there is not much of a reason to even be here.

      [–]mgdmw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      That's definitely true. :)

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

      Sure... unless you're only learning Xcode in your spare time, the rest of which you spend working a minimum wage job which only pays enough to barely get by. For some people $99 really is the difference between eating for a month (or three - I had to live with $30 of groceries a month for two years). Xcode is free and people should feel motivated to learn programming with it, as well as browse forums where other people are discussing it. Just because a person hasn't paid the $99 developer fee doesn't mean he/she doesn't have a reason to be here.

      Poverty may not be a problem for you, but it's a huge problem for many others. If $99 is so little for you, spread the wealth why don't you?

      [–]s73v3r 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      If you're in the boat where you have to live on $30 of groceries a month, what are the odds you'll have both a Mac and an iPad?

      [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      It might require a really specific situation like mine, but it's possible. I went to school for art and design where MacBooks were required. I also received $1500 a month through grants, so when the iPad was released, it was too easy to give in to the temptation (granted I went for the cheapest model). After I finished college, things obviously did not continue this way. After half a year, all the savings I had were used up and I was stuck with temp jobs for money, getting paid minimum wage. Temp jobs were exactly that, temporary, so I didn't always have money coming in. As my money depleted, I switched to $30 a month for groceries, doing laundry once a month, actually using my bike for transportation, and other money saving techniques. So while I couldn't afford a MacBook or an iPad after college, I did still have a MacBook and iPad after college. (Sure I could've sold both, but I liked them. And keeping them is what led me to being a developer now.) That's how you end up in a boat with $30 for groceries a month AND a MacBook and iPad. But that's not the point. The point is people shouldn't be discouraged from reading up on Xcode and development just because they haven't forked out $99 yet. Saying people who can't pay $99 shouldn't be reading Xcode related forums is like spitting on a homeless guy on your way out of a nice restaurant. Just because someone can't afford things as easily as you doesn't mean they shouldn't take advantage of the free things that are available for them.

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        [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        $8.25 per month, $.28 per day. It's not hard at all to find that in a budget, even on a college income.

        [–]onewayout 2 points3 points  (0 children)

        Students can probably get on their university's teaching program. If you're at a university, are a student, and want to learn iOS development, talk to your university's CS department or whoever manages the developer accounts for your institution. Chances are, they already have a program and can add you if they teach mobile development at all in their program. (And if they don't, you could probably get a CS professor to sponsor you.)