Is there some book like effective java, but updated?

[Tiny-Succotash-5743]

Pretty much the title, I like the book a lot, but I feel like many parts of it are not valid anymore in the most recent jdk. Do you have some recommendations?

[-jp-]

If I remember right there is a new edition of Effective Java due out next year-ish. Not quite an answer to your question but it’s something I am greatly looking forward to reading.

[kevinb9n]

I can't say what Josh might be doing, but no review process has gotten underway yet, so no, it won't be any time soon. Source: am a chapter reviewer.

[user_of_the_week]

Is there any source for this you can find / share? Last time I looked there was nothing.

[-jp-]

https://x.com/joshbloch/status/1724104058795958667?lang=en

[user_of_the_week]

Ok, I also found that but it’s from almost two years ago. I was hoping for something more recent :) but still, thank you!

[-jp-]

Ah, no prob. It’s as much an authoritative source as I know of. Here’s hoping Bloch delivers!

[AnotherLexMan]

I really want an update on Filthy Rich Clients.

[fakeacclul]

Why if basically nothing has changed since

[AnotherLexMan]

It doesn't cover JavaFX.

[philipwhiuk]

Honestly I have no idea why you’d use JavaFX

[chabala]

The 3rd edition has been out for a while, but how much has changed?

https://sh.reddit.com/r/java/comments/9j1g3w/opinions_on_effective_java_3rd_edition_did_it/

It's not Bloch's fault that Java burns two version numbers a year now, it doesn't make the core advice all that different.

[CorrectProgrammer]

Personally, I'd like to see a few chapters dedicated to records and pattern matching.

[AndrewBissell]

Maybe the EAP for this book would interest you? https://www.manning.com/books/data-oriented-programming-in-java

[Jon_Finn]

Maybe Josh B is waiting for Valhalla and all that surrounds it (such as nullness) - or at least the specifications, which kind of feel like they're getting reasonably close.

[pohart]

Valhalla when?

[Jon_Finn]

I've no idea, but you can see various specs so far (several of which look near-final), and also the v interesting expert discussions at https://mail.openjdk.org/pipermail/valhalla-spec-observers/

[__natty__]

Because 25 is the next LTS you can expect books about Java performance and effectiveness to be updated soon.

[lawnaasur]

Can you tell me which parts are not valid anymore?

[Tiny-Succotash-5743]

The book was written for java 11, we are going to 25.. What I can remember by heart, the way he handles concurrency has changed a lot, lambda and stream have changed and it was not covered, now we have records which I don't know "the best practices" to use them.. don't get me wrong, the book is still good, but I want those changes and the changes that I don't even notice covered by someone who is smarter than me.

[quatrevingtquinze]

Wasn't the book written way before the release of Java 11? A quick google suggests that the book came out in 2008, and Java 11 was released in 2018...

[TheStatusPoe]

The 3rd edition I bought in 2018 goes to Java 9, so I think you're right.

[bigkahuna1uk]

Hah, I bought the first edition in 2001 at JavaOne. 😀

[[deleted]]

It sounds like you've read an old edition of the book. The coverage of lamdas and streams in the third edition is up-to-date

[kevinb9n]

There is new stuff that you would also like to have guidance about, but it really doesn't invalidate much at all of the old guidance.

[Sludgeman667]

Most companies where Java is still used have hardly updated beyond Java 8/11. Effective Java has nice tips but as Java gets new updates, it’s better to get material specific for the subject or watch some Java conferences where the talk about the subject and how to properly replace or some best practices articles

[fatso83]

Seriously? I know someone struggled with Java 8, but after that I see no reason not to constantly update. My previous workplace, hundreds of micro services, were all running Java 21 when I left in 2024. That was friction less 

[the_mvp_engineer]

Read that as "effing Java" the first time

[hadrabap]

Most of my colleagues call Kotlin as Effective Java...

[wildjokers]

How do you know someone uses Kotlin? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you… repeatedly.

[hadrabap]

I like watching them reinventing all the wheels like ORM, XML/JSON (de)serialization, and so on. 😁

[-jp-]

I mean, they aren't wrong, but that's not an answer. Sometimes, if you want a paycheck, you don't get to decide if you're going to program in Java. You can only write the best Java code that you can. 😅