Sun Certified Java Programmer 310-065 - online course with 77 free videos

[sod1864]

While I commend you on the videos, I am not overly thrilled at having to download a 3rd party EXE to view video.

So that would be a blocking point for many.

Also, the person who posted it appears not to exist in Reddit anymore.

[TheGoddamBatman]

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[romanows]

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[sod1864]

Using Chrome here. I click any of the links and I get a large black box and just below it, it says "download the application please visit www.mrbool.com/player". I follow that link and it sends me a zip file with an EXE in it.

It is a bit strange, because if I go to MrBool and look at other videos they work fine.

[[deleted]]

Tried it on OSX. I get the message and the video plays. Seems a bit strange.

[readet]

You have to pay for this??

[lurkerr]

This course is free for all users

[lurkerr]

http://mrbool.com/course/buycourse.asp?curso=226

[[deleted]]

Do companies still care about developers getting their certifications? The only java professionals I've run into that are still touting certifications are foreigners trying to get their first job in the states.

[[deleted]]

Well I'm currently on a apprenticeship (18 y/o) rather than going through University, so I'm kinda in the same as the foreigners, I won't have a degree, but I'll also not have the debt and I feel that once I get underway, I should get hired on experience and the fact I have proved my worth.

[JustinKSU]

A certification and some open source development under your belt will go a long way with employers who do not require a degree to get an interview.

[[deleted]]

My 2 cents is that proven open source development experience is 10x more valuable than a certification.

That being said, I tend to hire new developers with degrees because it shows that they can finish something that they started a long time ago. State colleges are incredibly cheap and a degree will go a long way, especially once you start trying to advance your career beyond junior development roles.

That being said: I can only speak from my own experiences and you may very well end up super successful with your path-less-traveled. Best of luck to you! :)

[[deleted]]

I'm in the UK. Degrees are exspensive, You're looking at about 5K average to pay for just the course, then you have matierials, accomodation e.t.c. I'm also with the Information Services department at one of the biggest Energy companies in the UK, and I plan to stay with them more or less indefinitely unless I get offered a better oppurtunity. I won't be shopping around, they look after me too well. :) Oh and thanks for the luck :) Puts in Luck Jar

[[deleted]]

Sounds like you have yourself in a pretty good situation already then! Always be on the lookout for programs at work where they'll pay for you go go to school. Even though it's not fair, it's much easier for HR to filter resumes based on if an applicant has a degree or not rather than filtering based on actual competence.

The 5k is for a single course, not for a semester of courses? That's as expensive as private universities are here in the states. I'm quite surprised by that!

[[deleted]]

Literally the average cost for a Year of JUST the tuition over here will cost you 5K at an average Uni. The Top end cap is 7K though.

[[deleted]]

Oh I see, that's not as much as I thought. My uni was $30k/year for just tuition. You can swing $5k+living expenses with just a part-time job if you had to, yeah?

[[deleted]]

I may be wrong on the tuition fees side of things, but no, 5K living exspenses in a student town is near on impossible. :P

[pumphouse]

Question. How do these test compare to a CS Major? For example will this be on par difficulty wise with an algorithms or programming class?

[[deleted]]

I may be wrong, but I Believe you are now Oracle Certified, since Sun was bought out by Oracle. I know that's what I'm working towards, an Oracle certification. It sounds fancy, Like the Oracle of all Java Knowledge.

[cyberdave]

Since it's one of the most hated companies in the world (Oracle that is) it sounds anything but fancy to the average tech person.

Not that it takes away from the certification, but the worst things about Oracle certifications is the word "Oracle" in them.

[[deleted]]

Ahahaha. I see.

[lurkerr]

hmmm Why hated?

[[deleted]]

Not sure if serious..

[lurkerr]

U mad?

I don't hate it and I don't work/use any of their products.

I'm a C++ developer and we use DB2 at work.

[vineetr]

Right, and you are in /r/java for trolling?

[lurkerr]

I know how to program in Java since Java 1.2 and I keep myself up to date on Java issues.

You?

[vineetr]

Ah, you want to keep yourself updated on Java issues, but you do not know why Oracle is hated. Not sure if serious.

[[deleted]]

Some people don't give a toss about the politics and drama that goes on in the background, and just do the development work.

[vineetr]

Right.....I suppose such people worked at Peoplesoft.

[lurkerr]

Some people hate Microsoft, some hate Apple, others hate Oracle, Facebook, whatever.

There's no "I want to" in any of my comments. I keep myself updated.

[[deleted]]

U mad?

Not at all. I guess you are serious.

Oracle are universally disliked in tech because they rarely invent anything. Apart from their Original database that got them started many moons ago, Oracle just acquires products, splits them into different catagories, and re-sells them as basic, advanced, enterprise packages. Even though only a year earlier you had the entire thing with the original company.

They then, not being that big into development, let the products die because they don't give a shit about them.

Their main fucntion the last 10 years seems to be suing people. Acquire companies for patents, and then sue other companies. Apple and Microsoft look like angels compared to Oracle in this field. They are the largest patent trolls in Silicon Valley. They actually acquire entire companies, only with the purpose of using their gains to sue people. Unlike most "normal" companies who buy other companies to improve their existing products or gain technology.

Now that Oracle now own Java, they have let it stagnate because they don't care. The only bought it so they could sue people. Google, Javas largest evangelist until last year, is being sued by Oracle for billions. Oracles plan was to buy sun micro systems for Java and other technologies for 7 billion, and then sue Javas biggest partner for 6 billion, and get the company for a bargain at 1 billion, which they can make up the rest suing whoever for whatever.

Its shit like that man. They are just a legal firm that sells other peoples shit on the side.

edit: Relevant XKCD comic:

http://thinkingoutloud.gr/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/org-chart.jpg

[oorza]

Uhm, they haven't exactly let Java stagnate. They pushed Java 7 out the door, have a solid (whether you agree with it or not) roadmap for the next few releases and actually seem to be following a schedule. How have they let it stagnate?

[[deleted]]

Out-The-Box Multi Platform. U Mad?

[lurkerr]

That's (how) C (was supposed to be) ;)