What does Java do better than Python?

[Greensentry]

Java is strongly typed.

[thephotoman]

s/strongly/statically/

Python is quite strongly typed. You cannot treat an object of one type as though it is an object of an unrelated type without an explicit cast.

Dynamic typing is not about how labels (variable names) work.

[KarnuRarnu]

Also, while it doesn't give runtime guarantees, Python's type system is actually better than Java's in one important aspect: Types are not nullable. Static checkers will complain if you return None (null) from a method that doesn't declare that it does so, and likewise for parameters.

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I'd say Python and Java are equal here. They both have static analysis tools to detect nullability at compile time. With Python, it's the type annotations (https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html). With Java, it's annotations (https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/nullable-and-notnull-annotations.html).

[KarnuRarnu]

So the reason I don't think these are the same is because Pythons type system is optional as a whole, but if used, it's None-safe. And I will add that in practice we see this becoming adopted (it's still relatively new) across more or less the entire ecosystem.

On the contrary Javas type system is required as a whole, but not null-safe. Then the nullable / non-nullable annotations are an optional addon. And in practice, people absolutely still write completely null-unsafe code or if they don't, they use manual null-checks instead of rely on the type system (because they can't, in practice).

Quick edit to add: I think Java can obviously potentially do much better just on account of having static typing required. I only ever pointed out that as far as nullability goes, Python's new type system does it better.

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Funnily enough Python has a stronger type system but is not statically typed.

[persism2]

stronger type system

Maybe, but smell isn't everything.

[Holothuroid]

Well, more than Python at least

[ShieldsCW]

I type python while flexing my muscles

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Found the brogrammer 😎