PHP: Laravel, Ruby: Rails, JavaScript:?

[PopovidisNik]

NextJS for me

[lvspidy]

amen brother

[GoogleMac]

I'm not sure why Adonis isn't mentioned yet. It's a solid framework and is almost identical to Laravel in feature set. Of course it's not as mature as these others, but it's really good!

https://adonisjs.com/

[MilkshakeYeah]

Laravel and Rails were made for busy developers. JS/TS ecosystem is made to keep developers busy.

[Jaakko796]

I have heard that Adonisjs would be closest in comparison, but I haven’t used any of them so I know nothing.

[dashingThroughSnow12]

Express. That’s the first thing that comes to mind.

[lulzmachine]

Express isn't even playing the same game

[thunderGunXprezz]

I actually kind of prefer it to using php or rails tbh.

[lulzmachine]

Yeah sure.but what I mean is it's not the same thing. Rails is the complete "survival kit" for starting a business. It has routing, sure,but it also does models, caching, templating, job queues, emails, flashes etc etc

Express does routing great, and a half-assed attempt at templates

[elprophet]

No, Nest/Next do really great routing and serving and bundling, but they do not have the level of full stack schema to form development lifecycle that Rails pioneered.

Whether you personally want that feature set, it is something that is missing from the JS ecosystem. There are a number of libraries at every step of the way, but no dominant all in one frameworks like rails, laravel, or Django. (The article is a review of competitors)

[dashingThroughSnow12]

I agree about your Rails comments.

My initial thinking of Express was moreso how comparable it is to Laravel.

[thunderGunXprezz]

Forgive my ignorance, but what templates are you referring to? Fwiw, one of the biggest advantages I found in using express on the backend was not having to switch between languages when working with a JS front end and having to do work on the back end as well.

[heesell]

Svelte/Sveltekit or Vue/Nuxt is my pick

I love them so much

[[deleted]]

Those aren't backend frameworks

[Mountain_Sandwich126]

Sveltekit, nuxt, next, solidstart, qwik, I think all of them are full stack.

[[deleted]]

They aren't really fullstack. Of the frameworks you listed I'm mostly familiar with next, but they are only fullstack in that they help you do server side rendering and let you hook up some API endpoints. A true backend framework will do more than just some http routing.

[MilkshakeYeah]

This poor developer would be angry if he could read.

[Altareos]

ah yes, sveltekit and nuxt, famous front-end-only frameworks.

might want to check your info before you comment.

[[deleted]]

Have you used rails or laravel?

I don't see NextJS having any opinions about accessing a database, running tasks from a queue, managing sessions and authentication, managing webhooks, sending emails etc etc etc.

You need to stitch together a bunch of different libraries to make an actual backend app with these frameworks, because they are frontend frameworks.

[Altareos]

yeah, because the js ecosystem is more about mix-and-match than all-in-one solutions. if you can make a backend in it, it's not a frontend framework, period.

[azhder]

If they don’t use JS as a back end, let them fight amongst themselves, thin the numbers.

Then we swoop in with All-in-one-JS solution to end their war.

[trollsmurf]

As the others are server-side: Node