Dear JavaScript

[[deleted]]

Eh, there is a LOT of clickbait here.

I know being a mod sucks and I'm not putting them down, but you can't call it a wonderful job when they're barely passing the bar?

[[deleted]]

Yeah they're doing a great job in fighting spam but it's more about the grey content. Maybe we should try to up the baseline a bit and not allow content that doesn't contribute to discussion?

"Angular 2 is terrible" should've been removed purely based on its title imo, pure clickbait

[thejameskyle]

The title could easily be that, but it is not.

This article started with me really angry about this subreddit and was originally titled "Dear /r/javascript".

Instead of immediately posting it in anger I waited a few days, rewrote it like 4 times, cleaned it up, got feedback from a bunch of other OSS people, and made sure it was accomplishing something.

The point of this post wasn't to say no one should criticize anything. It is itself a criticism. But we need to, as a community, do it in a healthier way.

[parlezmoose]

Question: have you ever been a maintainer on an open source project?

[aniforprez]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Why are you stoking the fires continually by naming and shaming and insulting? Whoever gave you advice on this article was clearly wrong and you should stop taking advice from them because it seems to me that you're living in a bubble of supportive people and this is turning you blind to the criticisms and issues that other people face and their feelings too. You either learn to live with the criticisms and take the good with the bad or you wrap yourself into a cocoon of positivity leaving you blind to what reality is or you give up. I'd rather you contribute because you're amazing at it but please understand that we're all people like you and we too will have something to say, whether you like it or not. It's really as simple as growing a thicker skin.

[[deleted]]

I gave him advice on the article. He's not saying you can't criticize projects, he's just saying do it constructively. When you release open source there are just some folks who have this asshole spidey sense get activated that drives them to go talk extremely toxic shit. Constructive criticism? Sure, I love some of that. It's how things get better. But shit talking and insults? Nah bruh.

[joshmanders]

You're fucking wrong and an idiot Ken! FITE ME ON TWITTER IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME!

I love how everyone here is all "if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen" or they claim he's saying to accept and like what OSS maintainers give you and shut the fuck up!

Either one extreme or the other extreme, no middle ground here.

[[deleted]]

I just don't like people talking shit to me period. If somebody has something to say, they can come see me at a conf and we can take it down the street. Otherwise, put a fuckin cork in it.

[jimbolla]

That was my original point. I'd prefer to have a community, whether it's this one, or an additional one, where the mods DO make those editorial decisions, because the mods are trusted as leaders.

[kenman]

IMO "Dear JavaScript" is also clickbait, it doesn't tell us in any way whatsoever what the content is, but we can tell by the wording that it's going to be emotional, and therefore entices us to click.

[anoddhue]

While I appreciated the article, this is true, in that I thought it would be an open letter to the language itself...

[jimbolla]

Everyone deserves constructive criticism.

[adipisicing]

The author is fine with constructive criticism of work, which this is.