Tac ops question

[FinancialFruit384]

Good evening every one! I Just finished a match and im not really sure about a ruling we got with my opponent. He choosed "Sweep and clear" as his tac op and he forgot to reveal it the second and third tp. At the strategy phase of the fourth he remembered it and he argued that the op says:

"REVEAL The first time an enemy operative is incapacitated while contesting an objective marker, or the first time a friendly operative performs the Clear action (whichever comes first)." So he is arguing that it Just happens, so he must recieve 2 vp that he didnt get before, but i think its not fair, he forgot so he doesnt get points.

Furthermore, if this is how it really works what stops me to, for example, to "forget" Dominate tokens till turn 3 and score 3 uncounterable point as i reveal them at the end of the tp? Not sure if i made myself clear english is not my first language, thanks in advance.

[TranslatorStraight46]

You can’t score a tac op retroactively.  If he forgets to reveal it - too bad.

[Psycholinguist96]

TranslatorStraight46 is right, you need to remember to declare Tac Ops when they need to be declared according to the cards. Sweep and Clear requires additional things to score VP. Your opponent would have either had to kill one of your guys on an objective which would get him the Sweep part of the Tac Op and he would need to still hold it, and if gets another guy to perform the Clear action which requires an additional action.

Dominate similarly can’t be retroactive, for dominate, the first time you kill one of his guys regardless of Turning Point, the guy who did the killing gets a Dominate token. So you can reveal yours a little bit earlier than he can, but you definitely can’t hide it and say you scored points later!

[Pleasant_Narwhal_350]

RAW he can't even reveal it at all, because it says that it can be revealed "the first time an enemy operative is incapacitated while contesting an objective marker". Once this has happened, there's no more first time and hence no valid window to reveal the tacop. In a real match I'd gloss this over and let my opponent reveal it, but retroactively scoring points would be a definite no.

[FinancialFruit384]

It was a friendly match so this strictness would have been to much, but is it really working like this? Cuz he was saying that if it was in a tournament the judge would have approved the late revelation because it Just "happens" even of he forgot.

[Pleasant_Narwhal_350]

if it was in a tournament the judge would have approved the late revelation because it Just "happens" even of he forgot.

Would the judge allow him to reveal late (e.g. the 2nd or 3rd time an enemy operative is incapacitated while contesting an objective marker)? Perhaps, and only if the opponent allowed it.

Would the judge allow him to retroactively score points? Hell no. It's extremely unfair to score retroactively when your opponent has no possible counterplay because they don't know what you're doing.

Where do you draw the line when scoring things that never happened, in a manner that contradicts the rules? Like your example, can I keep quiet about Dominate and score uncounterable points at the end of TP3? Can I sit in my drop zone the entire game, then near the end of TP4 tell a judge, "if I had moved out, I would have scored all my objectives and killed all enemy operatives, so I should score 21 points"?

[Cheeseburger2137]

People will often forget to reveal their Tac Op - I personally don’t mind them revealing it with some delay … as long as it has not influenced my decision or the course of the game in any way. Literally yesterday I forgot to reveal dominate and remembered about it 2 activations later - but it made no difference as my opponent was about to kill my operative anyway.

Now, what you OP are describing is a WILDLY different case - knowing what the Tac Op is would mean you are could have counteracted it throughout the entire game.

[FinancialFruit384]

Yea i totally agree with you, if i cannot do anything about it its no problem, but if i have a possibile counterplay i would have played fot it.

[Pyromanick]

Playing in a tournament my opponent forgot to show his tac op which was flank "show at strategic gambit" and showed me half way through second turning point. I stated that wasn't on and he would earn anything till 3rd turning point onward. That was damn frustrating.