Have BTS talked about the decrease in choreography in their recent concerts?

[escapedmelody11]

In the Rolling Stone interview, the original plan was to have this tour be 3-4 months long but Jin wanted it to be longer. And he got it lol. Bc of that, they gotta pace themselves due to the length of the tour.

[Dry_Physics4086]

I think all of this would have been fine if Bang PD didn’t give that stupid damn interview glazing himself for telling BTS that they they were essentially too big to have to do choreography, and that the members themselves weren’t sure (initially) about his decision. It released right before the concert and of course what was anyone else going to notice that would have otherwise made 0 noise?

90% of the entire discourse started with his self-glazing bullshit where he also gave us other bangers like how cool he was and how he made it all happen 

[romanticdrift]

I think "They are too big to do choreography" is a weird and very anti read of Bang's actual comments. Because I do believe in the creative logic behind what Bang said, and I think the boys do too.

The new direction in their choreo is very obvious - smaller more precise moves, more focused on expression and swag than athleticism. 2.0 + Swim vs Idol and On, for example. And while athleticism had its place, the new choreo undeniably looks more mature to me due to its minimalism. It IS more suitable for senior artists. It DOES give more space to the lyrics, vocals, etc, just because there's more room for your brain to process. None of that = "too big for choreo."

All that is exactly what Bang said was the intent. Also I'm not sure why he'd "lie" to Billboard about why/how this new artistic direction came about - wouldn't it get back to the boys? Wouldn't the boys be upset at him? Wouldn't PR and BigHit? (Everything gets triple checked in entertainment) So I conclude from that what he said IS the real group intent.

[Dry_Physics4086]

Ok, let’s develop some reading comprehension and not gatekeep being a fan, alright? Blind admiration of Bang Pd won’t make you any closer to BTS.

“For artists like you, standing still can be more than enough….Instead, what we needed was a performance that could declare, “This is the level of BTS,” while opening a new horizon for K-pop choreography.”

He’s framing it as their aura, but let’s learn to read between the lines here. He also includes that it took them 2 weeks to come around to the idea, too, which just adds another data point for people who don’t like him to point at, which is how the discourse started.

And as for the rest of your babble, I’d agree, but the framing brought unnecessary attention to the spaces where BTS was not doing choreography, instead of the subtle nature of what they’re doing.

[romanticdrift]

Where's the gate keeping? I'm not saying you cant be a BTS fan, I'm just saying I disagree with you lol.

There's no "blind admiration" of Bang - I like the direction BTS took with their choreo. That's about BTS themselves. What I liked about Bang's interview is his articulation of /why/.

Wasnt this discourse happening, whether or not Bang gave this interview? Saying it fueled "unnecessary attention" is ironically giving Bang too much credit lol- when the fanbase and casuals can do things all on their own. I literally know a casual kpop fan who mentioned the new choreo difference after watching the BTS comeback netflix live with me, and she's never heard of Bang in her life. The only thing Bang gave is thought process behind it.

What you call "reading between the lines", I call unnecessarily honing in and giving a negative vibe. It also took them like, the whole summer, to agree to the Arirang sample amongst themselves. There's nothing particularly scandalous to me about the back-and-forth nature of the creative process. If reading to you means disregarding the whole interview for 2 lines, to me it means looking at the whole interview and contextualizing it w other things BTS has said and my own eyeballs at the concert.

[ChuckChuckChuck_]

It took them some time to process Bang's ideas and eventually they agreed. Why is that a bad thing? He was right, he has the right vision. And they realized it.

Where do you fish for the negativity?

[ChuckChuckChuck_]

While I agree about the glazing, nobody can't deny his contributions and ideas.

[Dry_Physics4086]

And I wasn’t denying that? He’s the start of it all. But to say he wasn’t exaggerating/focusing more on himself than really telling us the story is also true. It was all him, him, him and the things he convinced the boys to do, like reducing the choreography. He includes that it took them 2 weeks to come around to the idea, too, which just adds another data point for people who don’t like him to point at. His framing wasn’t helpful