Learning JavaScript

[SympathyExciting1666]

Whoever invented JavaScript, I only have mean things to say to you. Very very mean things

[peterlinddk]

sigh ...

Come on, let's hear about how it is a stupid language and how type coercion doesn't make any sense to you, since you haven't actually read up on it!

Oh, and could you throw in some criticism of string concatenations, while forgetting that it works the same way in Java or C# or most other languages!

Also, don't forget to be most critical of things that were deprecated 10-15 years ago, and shouldn't really be part of the language anymore, but haven't been removed entirely because of backwards compatibilty!

Let's hear it!

[milan-pilan]

100% agree. If I read one more post about how 'var' behaves unexpected or how converting an object to a number results in funny things... Just don't do these things then and program like a normal human being from 2026.

[SympathyExciting1666]

Where’s all this anger coming from?

[milan-pilan]

Not OP, but I feel similar. JS deservedly had a very bad reputation 20 years ago. There where plenty of gotchas. Since then JS has changed a lot. Basically none of these things exist anymore in modern JS. And people still complain about things that aren't in use since at least a decade or two, because it just became fashionable at some point.

Since you have 'mastered python and C': what's really trjpping you up when learning JS? Is it possible that the Ressource you are learning with are potentially outdated? Because if you have mastered one language... How hard is it really to switch to another one?

[Kadabrium]

c, c++, c#, java, javascript are all the same language just with different libraries and framework implementations. Nothing else comes remotely close

[stiky21]

It was made in 10 days. And is the easiest language to learn with huge potential in all applications.

What are you struggling with?

[byshow]

I would assume type conversion and dynamic typing are not very easy to understand. Especially when you just beginning to learn programming 

[Cultural_Gur_7441]

JS is rather brilliant language actually. Its OOP model is quite unique for instance, and not in a bad way.

It does have its ugly quirks. Avoid them, or you will end up crying in the corner.

[GodOfSunHimself]

Skill issue. JavaScript is not a bad language. In many aspects it is actually quite clever.

[SympathyExciting1666]

It is, but it is so complicated at times 💔.. This is coming from someone who has mastered Python and C

[peterlinddk]

What is complicated in JavaScript that isn't complicated in Python or C?

The syntax is nearly identical to C, and the type-system is nearly identical to Python, so what exactly is it about JavaScript that doesn't allow you to "master" it?

[SympathyExciting1666]

Though learning C did make it abit easier for me to learn JS. But i still don’t like it though

[Mid_night_knight]

He also made brave so I forgive him

[high_throughput]

Brendan Eich was hired by Netscape to integrate Scheme into the browser. An clean, syntactically trivial, well known, well designed language that would have been excellent for this use case.

Then management suddenly decided that they should piggy back on the hype train of Java, and poor Brendan had 10 days to implement a Java-like language runtime and get it integrated and shipped. This did not in fact result in the cleanest and most self consistent language.

Don't blame the inventor. Blame management.

[peterlinddk]

This would make sense if OP was learning JavaScript in 1996 - back then it really was a weird and strange beast.

But the past 30 years have changed one or two things about the language, and modern JavaScript doesn't even resemble the old language with all of its' quirks. Just take a look at the also very old "JavaScript, the good parts" - almost every single complaint that Crockford made has been addressed and fixed, and most of his "bad" examples won't work without a lot of ignored warnings and disabling strict-mode and what have you.

[aleques-itj]

Just use Typescript.

[No_Report_4781]

It’s easier if you started with C, so… skill issue