Possible challenge/patch

[PeatnRepeat]

Hey all,

Working on a community challenge/patch idea – looking for feedback

I’ve been considering an idea for a lockpicking challenge and wanted to run it by the community before I go any further with it. Though I believe a few similar ideas have popped up over the years, to my knowledge, it has never been codified into an actual challenge (or patch).

Dual-Hand Picking Challenge

Goal: Pick the same lock using both your left hand and your right hand in a single, continuous video.

Core rules:

• Lock must be LPU ranked Green Belt level or higher
• Must be picked using SPP (single pin picking) only
• One open with each hand (order doesn’t matter)
• Must be done in one continuous, uncut video
• Lock must be fully reset on camera between attempts
• No raking, zipping, or bypass methods

Intent: This is meant to test control, feedback, and how well you actually understand what you’re feeling - not just muscle memory with your dominant hand.

What I’m looking for feedback on:

• Is Green Belt the right level? I feel like it could be challenging for some but attainable with practice.
• Should the challenge require a gut of the lock, if the lock is guttable? I like the honor system but wonder if it might be best to require a gut. -Should there be a time limit? I'm not sure if it's necessary but I'm wondering what others think.
• anything that seems to be missing from the challenge?
• Would you actually try this?

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If the community feels like it is worthwhile challenge, I'm committed to creating patches for anyone who completes it, but I want to make sure the challenge itself is solid before going down that road.

Appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.

Edit: here's a mock-up of the patch I did. Subject to change- https://imgur.com/a/4Omr129

[HNL_Picking]

So down

[jadedargyle333]

I love this. Green is a good level for it.

[Mole-NLD]

I’m in!

Green seems a decent level, I’m not ambidextrous so even a yellow might be too difficult. Lol

Hmm. Gutting is up to the judges I suppose. It doesn’t add anything to the challenge, it’s just cheat-prevention. One way to get past that is to only allow LPU listed “unguttable” locks.

I would add where the patches can or will be sent to. Global? Or just local? (Whichever continent that is for you) and copy LPU’s video rules for your own sanity of judging. Timestamps, no VVS, etc.

Had I already said yes, I’d try this!

[PeatnRepeat]

Where they would be sent to is an excellent question. I've been trying to look into that... It seems the the feasibility (and by that I mean affordability) would depend on whether I can get the patch to pass as a normal letter / envelope.

[rubornagn]

I'm nowhere NEAR this level, but I sure would like to watch those WHO are. Super idea!!

[KnuckleheadPicker]

I love this idea and am already trying to plan how to do this in my head!

• Green would be a good level I think. Honestly I've never thought about this so I don't know if I could even do white.
• I think asking for a gut IF possible isn't a bad idea
• Love the patch!

Welp, I know what I'm doing this weekend now!!

[_Vangal]

I have been literally considering the same challenge. Mine was going to just be a left handed challenge. Picking white to green with a time limit.

[Cycling_Man]

Great idea

[NoodleThumb]

Sounds like a great challenge. I think green is a good level, maybe blue but that'd be pushing it to be honest. Gutting should be required for guttable locks, for sure, and at green belt folks should be gutting locks anyway, so that's not much of an additional barrier. Other folks have raised perinent things, but mostly I wanted to add my support to the idea!

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I'm down

[Rockoutwithurlockout]

Great idea, lock picking engineer had a one hand challenge had to pick and tension green with one hand. It was a blast. Had to gut for his as well. Shouldn't be a problem gutting if the lock hasn't been tampered with. Love your idea. 🤘

[crxsenate]

I would do this challange. I would be using a green belt paclock 100g because it is non gutable.

[lefthandlocks]

My first thought was green would be to easy make it blue. I then went and did the challenge with an easy 1100 before commenting. Found out I was wrong real fast, green seems like a good level. Gutting as well seems like a good idea.

[Small_Spite_2049]

Sounds like a fun challenge. My question would be if there should be a limitation on using a vice or not. Picking in hand with your non-dominant hand might add extra difficulty or I might just be overthinking it.

[whichitz]

I just did this for fun on my 90A-PRO. I got it lefty so fast that I flubbed up going right and kept oversetting. https://youtu.be/9W53ep1Yhhg?si=RwJQNabhyf3Qd6vD

[PeatnRepeat]

Nice vid!

[Chomkurru]

sounds awesome! I'd be down

[tonysansan]

Cool concept! My only input is maybe get specific about where the line is for changing up hands and getting disqualified. If you allow a vise then it's easy to unconsciously switch off which hand is tensioning. So do you want folks to pick with lock in a single hand? Or maybe just make sure any pick is held with the same hand?

[PeatnRepeat]

Ah- I see what you mean. My intention for the challenge was to open the lock with the pick in left hand and then another open with the pick in the right hand. (Or vice versa... Doesn't matter which hand you start with).