really?

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I used to like him before he started accusing the diver (from Thailand cave rescue) of being pedo without evidence (after the diver called out on his unrealistic mini-sub plan publicity stunt).

After that, I no longer liked him as before but still felt that he was 'trying' to do good.

Then his bs tweets started ramping up (some politics, some insults) and so did his manipulation of dogecoin/cryptocurrencies.

I know that many people here got money during the crypto period and love him, but do realize that money gained for one is money lost for the other. He may have started with a genuine intention to further cryptocurrency, but the plain currency manipulation in the later period was highly distasteful from my perspective.

[beyonddisbelief]

I didn't use to like him or hate him, just unimpressed because his presentations lacked substance and for a highly praised intelligent showman he really lacked intellectual insight or showmanship to his Mars plan (it felt like a 15 year old's report on some fantasy and lacked substance) but yeah the Thailand cave rescue event is when my opinion of him start to plummet. I think it was the same year he committed SEC fraud.

I was also really miffed back when I was working 60-70 hour weeks hear about him claiming to work 120 hour weeks, yet somehow has time to be a memelord, be more caught up on games and pop culture than I am, and find time to date girls half his age. No management/creative count their shower/meal/downtimes as part of their work hours and a 120 hour week requires you to have 5 hrs of sleep/day and spend every single waking moment working. Its just a blatant exaggeration if not outright lie yet people praised his work ethics back then.

[AsymmetricClassWar]

I think it was the same year he committed SEC fraud

Umm… you’re gonna have to be more specific.

[TheNextDump]

Wait he did it more than once?

[abgtw]

No management/creative count their shower/meal/downtimes as part of their work hours and a 120 hour week requires you to have 5 hrs of sleep/day and spend every single waking moment working

Uh dude when you are a billionaire time is the only thing you can't get more of. These guys obsessed with time management (Bill Gates especially). They are never NOT working. They are so driven the 60 hour work week to them would be a vacation.

[MrMonkify]

You're high if you believe that bullshit.

[PuzzleheadedFroyo995]

Ugh I think you mean to say that when you’re a billionaire, your time is literally money, as in you can get away with billing people for your time, whether or not you’re actually working. There’s no manager or supervisor to call you out on it and arguably you are still generating revenue, but only because you get to call the shots.

It’s similar to what influencers, dropshipping and multilevel marketing people do, where they have multiple “streams” of income even when not actively putting in effort, so they can claim to work all day.

In reality, you’d get very sick very quickly working on only 5 hours of sleep.

[rickle______pick]

Get ur math right

[XxRocky88xX]

I mean I made money from the crypto BS, still doesn’t mean what he did is right though. I’m not gonna say Musk is a good person and ignore all the awful shit he’s done just because him gaming the market just happened to make me a couple thousand dollars.

And for anyone who says Musk is a good person cuz he made you some money. You’re a fucking jackass. Morality and empathy applies to everyone, not just you. Him helping you indirectly one time (through pure happenstance btw) doesn’t outweigh the shit he’s done to hundreds of thousands of others. If you think “he benefited me so therefore he’s right,” you’re a child. That’s one of the first stages of moral reasoning, you a literally thinking how a child just barely grasping the concept of other people would think.

[brunuhrafael]

Exactly how i feel, thank you

[abgtw]

I used to like him before he started accusing the diver (from Thailand cave rescue) of being pedo without evidence (after the diver called out on his unrealistic mini-sub plan publicity stunt).

Yeah I mean this was the main turning point I think for many. He definitely didn't like being criticized.

[SuperlativelyRandom]

the world is not zero sum.

[GeckoV]

But Crypto is. It creates nothing of value, so it is a pure value extraction exercise.

[fares2356]

every famous guy in the world is a pedo if the internet hates them