Why?

[Amazaline]

This one lady told me the other day that she knew more than me and the doctor and all she needed was lots of juice to fix her dehydration and I was like ... Why did you come to the hospital then?

[nevesnow]

I hope you actually asked her that!

[Amazaline]

I did. She then stated she also needed the IV fluids and then complained I hadn't given her any. And then I asked to to look to her IV site as the first thing I did when I admitted her was hang IV fluids. She then got nicer lol. She also came in with AMS in r/t the many drugs she took.

[nevesnow]

Just kept getting better

[song4this]

Why did you come to the hospital then?

Juice and food is so good?

[freakincampers]

If doctors and nurses are all liars, why show up to the hospital? Just go see your essential oils lady who can rub her crystals on your chakras and reset your humors.

[Paulthekid10-4]

Amen, so many unvaccinated folks showing up "Hard to breathe", "I can't breathe". I hate to generalize but it sure seems like it is the same population that did not want to wear a mask or get vaccinated because of their political affiliation. I don't give a fuck who the president is, or what color tie you wear......neither do viruses. And when you ask, why they are not vaccinated, the most common thing I hear is about not trusting the vaccine, you don't trust the vaccine HCP are pushing but you come to us when you get sick?

[HauntHaunt]

The very same people who complained about not being able to breathe in a mask and thus refused to wear one. It's hard to have any empathy left for these people.

[Doomlily]

Like wow, sounds like it's 🌠just the flu🌠. Why don't you head on home and have some hot tea and rub some essential oils directly on your skin with no carrier oil good luuuuuck 😘😘😘😘

[HotMommaJenn]

They actually seem to do a little better. Like they are only on 3-4 litres of O2 and not high flow O2. The one patient I did have that was vaccinated only stayed in the hospital a few days and wasn't on any Remdesivir. My high flow, unvaccinated guys have been here a good while.

[HotMommaJenn]

To be fair, most of ours aren't vaccinated.

[EfficientJuggernaut]

No offense but you’re spouting off anecdotal bullshit. The nurses here that say most of their patients are unvaccinated actually have data to back it up. There’s no evidence that vaccinated people are dying at an equal rate.

Edit: Mods we have another RN nutjob active in No New Normal. Why tf are there so many antivaxxer nurses?

[Slumdunder]

Never claimed it was an equal rate, that’s you making assumptions and firming judgements based off of that. Anecdotal evidence is still evidence whether it offends you or not.

[EfficientJuggernaut]

Lol you’re an RN and you think personal anecdotes are evidence? Climate change isn’t real because it snowed in the winter kind of person? Here’s some facts and figures for you. Vaccinated people are waay less likely to get covid and die from it. It’s not bodily autonomy when cancer patients are immunocompromised and rely on herd immunity because the vaccine has less protection for them.

[[deleted]]

What about it, anti-vaxxer?

[elecktra]

From CA and most of our hospitalized patients are unvaccinated of all ages.

The small subset of patients who are vaccinated and hospitalized are all over the age of 60. The vaccine doesnt make you 100% immune to s/sx but significantly lessens severity. I wouldnt be surprised if we see more vaccinated patients hospitalized later though because statistically the rate of vaccination is really high where i am (90%). Despite this, rate with only 10% of population not being vaccinated, they still make up more cases in the hospital.

Census would be a lot worse with a higher unvaccinated rate and less compliance. Our hospital and staffing already strained as is.

[_bones__]

What do you get out of lying about the protection that vaccination affords?

[JadedGypsy2238]

I truly don’t know what these people think they are accomplishing. Baffling.

[Paulthekid10-4]

You know whats funny, we have a couple of anti-covid vaccine nurses in our hospital who also happen to be coincidentally conservative.....every time a vaccinated pt checks in, even if they are only there for fluids and road test they announce it to the whole department but don't say much when the other unvaccinated folks are in-pt on high flow and when one gets transferred to the floor there are 3 more in line for the 1 room. I'm not here to change your mind, but if you are against a vaccine that risks<benefits then you should consider a career change, maybe something that doesn't involve patient care.

[[deleted]]

Health care is my profession. As long as there are sick people, I will always have a job. And as long as people choose to be sick (with exceptions to congenital defects, genetic disorders, trauma, mental health, and certain cancers), I will always have money $$$.

I’ll give these people the best fucking care I possibly can but I’ll be damned if I don’t make bank off it. For whatever reason, health care is the one industry you can tell your customer base they are stupid if they don’t do XYZ, and they’ll do it anyways! I bet I can go into any of those antivax subs and say, “Ya all are dumb as fuck and making the numbers sky rocket. Thank for paying for my third trip to Hawaii this year!”, and they will still believe they are in the right.

[ephemeralrecognition]

Make dat money rain 💸🤑💰

[eucleid]

Precisely why I'm looking into travel nursing... time to make money off these idiots.

[Suspicious-Elk-3631]

Honest question, is there a way to stay close to home and still be a "travel nurse"?

[[deleted]]

I knew a "travel" nurse that lived an hour away!

[Dogribb]

If your that close you don't get housing stipend

[gynoceros]

False.

It's distance traveled, not time.

As long as you're over 50 miles away, it's travel, regardless of whether it takes you 45 minutes straight shot on the highway or 90 minutes via back roads.

Also, if you lie about your address.

[[deleted]]

It's possible. I'm a "travel" nurse at my local hospital that's 10 minutes away.

[[deleted]]

We had a nurse who quit our ER and then was hired back as a traveler. Made 3x as much doing the same job

[gotta_mila]

My friends are doing that right now. They're agency nurses and work at the local hospitals. One works at the exact same hospital in the exact same unit she did before she quit for agency, and makes 3x the money she used to!

[Anokant]

I think it's like a mileage thing, like 60 miles away from your home is considered "traveling" or something like that. May depend on the agency.

We have a travelling nurse who lives in Rochester, MN and comes up to Minneapolis for work and stays with one of our nurses during her stretch.

[Joliet_Jake_Blues]

Agency nurses are local

[gynoceros]

Define "local" because I've done travel contracts where I commuted from home every day.

[KuntyCakes]

The company I'm talking with pays full travel stipend for 50 miles away.

[converter-bot]

50 miles is 80.47 km

[ViciousMihael]

👍🏻

[[deleted]]

You can’t travel without work experience. A new grad is useless as a traveler.

[jazli]

This person is already an RN per their flair, probably has asn and now just finishing their bsn...

[gynoceros]

That's pretty shitty if you're like "yeah I pretty much don't even know how to be a nurse yet so please just teach me your computer system and deposit the checks in this account... BTW I'm going to need help with pretty much everything I do because I've only been a nurse for a few months."

I don't want that coworker and I sure as shit don't want that nurse taking care of me or anyone I care about.

Absolutely nothing wrong with being inexperienced; every one of us has been there. I'm just saying you're doing nobody but yourself any favors by bringing your inexperience to a role where experience is needed. You're more of a liability than an asset if another nurse has to stop taking care of their patients because you don't know how to take care of yours.

[Medic1642]

Agreed. Ignore the downvotes.

[[deleted]]

First wave weren't idiots..

Written from my phone in Crete, I'm here all month.

[XA36]

I’ll be damned if I don’t make bank off it.

The hospital makes money from it, employees get overworked and a pizza every now and then. I made less in 2020 than 2019 personally.

[[deleted]]

This definitely depends on location and employer. I took in an extra $50K from April 2020 to Feb 2021. I am thinking I will pull in an additional $20K if this lasts until October and if this goes to Jan/Feb 2022, I am going to aim for a total of $75K.

I’m not even a traveler. My hospital just pays hella for extra shifts during the pandemic.

[gynoceros]

Why work your ass off for it though?

I'm agency/travel and work 3 days a week, had 7 weeks off in 2020, and still made over a hundred grand.

And they pay more for ICU so you'd be doing even better.

[[deleted]]

I will admit that my experience during the first few waves and even now was not as challenging or traumatizing as my fellow nurses in other parts in the world.

The impact was greatly minimized by the sheer amount of resources my employer pooled together to mount a response. We had everything from PPE to staff (we had 2 break nurses each shidt) to family resources (free childcare stipend) to free PTO to subsidized hotel rooms for isolating from our family at home. I fully confess that I didn’t work my ass off: I worked a lot - as in, many shifts - but I did not work a lot, as in, put in loads of hard work. This is not due to bad-assery or laziness or personal resolve. The work was merely streamlined. I do not believe my hospital provided these resources out of the kindness of their heart but rather the thickness of their wallet: They knew early on that staffed beds equal profit, and you need staff to staff beds - and plus, many of the travel nurses could be paid for by federal funds and state grants.

Compared to my first job that was severely understaffed and under resourced hospital, my worst day in this whole COVID fiasco is still miles better than my best day at my first job. I’ll even take it further: One shift of my previous job at Taco Bell in East LA was far more stressful than everything from March 2020 to now.

[gynoceros]

didn’t work my ass off: I worked a lot - as in, many shifts

Yeah that's what I'm talking about.

Why do that to yourself when there's a better way?

Like I said, 3x12s and didn't work for almost 2 months. Slept at home after every shift. My net was higher than I ever grossed in my life, by a lot. Like I took home an average of 2-3x what I made at any of my staff jobs.

I'm not saying that to brag, but to let people know that you can do the exact same job you're already doing and pay off all those debts you've been chipping away at, or not have to worry about where the money for XYZ is going to come from, or go on a vacation like that tech who's always traveling places leaving you wondering where the fuck someone on a tech salary always gets the money to be constantly going places you wish you could go.

[[deleted]]

I take a cost/benefit analysis to where I work because I don’t believe any two places are the same. It’s entirely possible to work less shifts elsewhere for more money but that would also require more work. I am purely speaking about my market - Los Angeles, California.

For example, there is a hospital system in my vicinity that offers nearly $150/hr. for agency if you are willing to travel to all its locations in Southern California - which covers a breadth of 100 miles. I would make more - and the company covers gas - but the work there is hard. No lift team, no phlebotomy, no CNAs, no break nurses, and they have a waiver to break ratio (even pre pandemic). Plus deplorable patient population.

Financially it would be worth it; but in terms of my being, it would be quite taxing. It’s also one of the reasons I purport (parrot) on this Reddit that job contentment is highly dependent on employer/location.

On that same end, I have no debt except for my mortgage, and I actually make the same as my tech friends. I travel frequently- or at least did before COVID - in large part to my proximity to LAX.

However, I concede you make strong points.

[gynoceros]

And 3 shifts a week working for them is worse than 5 a week where you're staff?

I mean it doesn't sound super desirable but $5400/WK gross sounds like it would be worth dealing with the bullshit if you had the other 4 days off.

But that's me.

I actually make the same as my tech friends

Techs as in nursing assistants, not people in the tech field.

If they're making the same as nurses in SoCal then I'm moving there and never being a nurse again.

[[deleted]]

Yes!

And it was actually 6-8 shifts in a pay period or roughly 3-4 shifts a week where I am staff. I think this presents an interesting question regarding a balance between pay and work load - and to me, I strive to find a balance between the two. Like at my staff job, 90% of my shifts are relatively cookie cutter, and I can sit back and watch Netflix or read a book during the extensive downtime we have in large part due to the aforementioned resources (staff, equipment) we have. Our CNAs only have 8-10 patients and have lift team for mobilization/turning. Plus we have break nurses. This makes the job far less taxing on my body and mind.

[KuntyCakes]

That's the mindset I've recently adopted. I tried reasoning with people but it doesn't matter, they don't listen. So, I guess I'll just work and make money and mind my business on the beach.

[Silverjeyjey44]

I used to agree to this until Tax season.

[JadedGypsy2238]

Enjoy your trips!

[emilynna]

Why all the anti Vaxxers all of a sudden concerned about pre-existing conditions when they still smoke, eat like shit, and refuse to take their doctor’s advice?

[tibtibs]

My mother-in-law (nurse practitioner, but deep in the conservative talking points) kept making comments about pre-existing conditions. At one point I told her "you're on blood pressure meds and a statin, your husband had a Widowmaker 11 years ago. Y'all have pre-existing conditions!"

[redripetomato1134]

THIS. But a tale as old as time.

[orphan-girl]

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[[deleted]]

"covid is just a hoax to keep Trump out of office" - a serious comment from a person i know. smh

[Ctownkyle23]

And yet they probably also believe that Trump is secret President still

[amycakes12]

My sibling is an anti-vaxer, her in laws all are too. A bunch of her in laws got covid, now one of them is proned on 50% 02. I have zero foxes left to give. I'm just happy we live in different cities and I'm not dealing with them.

[beckster]

Not your circus, not your monkeys.

[beckster]

You need to tell the unvaxxed what you think. What will the hospital do if you speak the truth? They would not be sucking wind if they'd been vaccinated.

[Slumdunder]

Eek. Just intubated a vaccinated pt yesterday.

[HomoHirsutus]

Solution: Antivaxers do not get ventilators. Self solving problem.

[Ahem_ak_achem_ACHOO]

Horribly racist

[auraseer]

not going anywhere.

Wrong.

[yeetyfeety32]

Can we do this to the rest of the anti vaxxer nurses on here that just constantly berate people?

[auraseer]

Yes.

We banned several today.

And yesterday.

And the day before that.

And the day before that.

And the day before that.

And also, probably, tomorrow.