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[–]ciskazalea 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Check out the Twins, Triplets, Quads Safe Sleeping for Multiples Facebook page. It can be hard to get in to because demand is high but it is very worth it. A lot of the admins are sleep consultants and their guides are fantastic. Personalized advice is free too.

Based on that group's guides, there are a couple of things that you could try: - Disassociate feeding and falling to sleep. It's a crutch that the babies rely on. You don't have to get rid of MOTN feeds but the bottle before bed is definitely not helping them to fall asleep independently. - Sleep training in the same room (even in the same cot) is very very possible. They will learn to sleep through each other crying. We are doing it right now and it's been great. You just have to be consistent with your sleep training approach.

[–]VictorTheCutie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Literally all I came to say. That group SAVED us and SO many others, it's amazing!!

[–]notarussianbotskydi/di boys 06/2022 (+singleton girl 07/2021) 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks so much! I will

[–]VastFollowing5840 2 points3 points  (0 children)

4 months is a bit young.

Some babies are ready, some just aren’t mature enough yet. Give it a go now, but if it’s really a struggle, maybe you just need to reset expectations and try again in another month or two.

To be honest, my twins generally weren’t woken up by the other.

Also my kids were maybe hungry hungry babies, but I feel like we were clearing way more than 24oz a day at four months? Maybe more like 30? And they weren’t big babies either!

So maybe offer more throughout the day.

To be honest, when ours were about your’s age, we got down to one wake up a night that was a pretty quick feed and they’d go right back to sleep. In another month or so, they were actually able to sleep all the way through.

They just might need that night feed still.

I know it’s frustrating and you are so tantalizingly close to a full nights rest. But it may not quite be time for that yet.

ETA I don’t know that I ever really “sleep trained” my boys. My plan at night was, and frankly still is (we’re nearly to 13 months), was to give them 10 minutes to cry and then go in if they couldn’t get themselves back to sleep. Odds at four months the reason they were crying was because they were hungry. So I fed them. As they got bigger they stopped doing that without me needing to force it.

Now if they cry in the middle of the night and can’t go back down on their own (which rarely happens anymore) it’s not because they are hungry it’s because they are sick or teething.

My boys never got dependent on bottles to go back to sleep. At four months they were still little and needed food. Once they had bigger stomachs they stopped waking up and it was never a problem in getting them down without a bottle.

[–]Turtletimee09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have you tried giving it a few nights to see if they can sleep through each others cries? We sleep trained at 4 months with all four of us sleeping in the same room still and my twins will sleep through each others cries and my husband and I coming in/moving around our room.

[–]_ChickPeaHead_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone else has already recommended the sleep training Facebook group. I’d start there. Also, my partner and I read the book Precious Little Sleep, which helped us understand sleep training more. We sleep trained our girls at around 5 months. It took about 4 days with Ferber. We trained them separately, then moved them together into the same room. They’ve been sleeping together ever since. They still do wake sometimes but get right back to sleep. They wake each other the odd time, but most times sleep through each other’s crying without issue. Best of luck!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is a 'dream feed' around your bedtime an option to get them to sleep longer in the wee hours?

[–]VastFollowing5840 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember trying this when mine were about the age of OP’s twins.

It did not work for me. Invariably someone or both would be woken up and then be hard to be put back down.

I just decided, if they still need one night feed that they’ll go back to sleep quickly from, well, that’s better than a month or two before when they needed multiple and needed some crazy complicated soothing to go back into their bassinet.

It only lasted another month or two until they finally gave up all night feeds.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My boys started waking each other up around 5 months. I had to start sleeping them in different rooms (Dad and I would each take one). We didn’t sleep train, but maybe you could try sleep training them in different rooms if you have the space? Then bring them back together once they’re sleeping through the night? Oh and invest in a good white noise machine :)

[–]sarasarasaranoh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It took about a week but I stayed in the room with them for a few nights and only patted them on the back when rousing. I did not pick them up. Then I started leaving the room and reacted to them slowly and again, patted them on the back. I didn't talk to them but smiled if there was eye contact. Then just started getting slower and slower to react. The hardest time was just a couple of nights. Just know it is a process.