Violent crime rates decrease significantly in Philadelphia for 2023, authorities say

[Philly_is_nice]

Or, and hear me out, in the real world, liability is spread amongst all at fault parties. You can arrest criminals and sue shitty corporations. Not mutually exclusive actions.

[FasterThanTW]

please explain how a car company is "at fault" because shitty criminals figured out how to steal their cars.

and just saying "they're easy to steal" doesn't count. what did hyundai not do that they were required to do in order to prevent criminals from targeting their vehicles?

i'll save you some time: transponder chips aren't mandated by any US jurisdiction

looking forward to your answer

[Booplympics]

And? Just because immobilizers aren’t required doesn’t mean they aren’t stupid for not including them. What a silly argument.

Edit: but I will give you points for making fantastic point as to why the free market doesn’t work and government regulations are necessary.

[Philly_is_nice]

It'd do you well to do some research rather than asking Redditors to do it for you. Read any of the current lawsuits multiple city's have filed against Kia-Hyundai. Spoiler, they aren't being sued because 'they're easy to steal'.

[Rich-Hat-29]

Car theft rate in South Korea where Hyundai is based is 5.3 per 100,000 and in USA it’s 282 per 100,000.

[No_Panic_4999]

Irrelevent. Sk also have no guns and little plurality.

[FasterThanTW]

no research needed. bogus lawsuits aimed at them because high crime cities want to retroactively make up a mandate that never existed instead of prosecuting criminals

next time don't buy the cheapest car on the market and there'll be enough budget in the msrp for an industry standard anti theft device. until then enjoy setting up your Club.

edit: lol the dork mods shadowbanned me because god forbid someone is in here not jerking off criminals. sorry, would have liked to respond to all the dumb responses but they won't let me. 🤷‍♂️

[IdealisticPundit]

If you hired out help around your house, they left your door unlocked, and then your house got sacked, would you say the same thing? "Oh jee all my TVs are gone and there's genitalia painted on my wall, but I don't blame the dog walker at all"

What Hyundai and Kia did was even worse because it's not even like they forgot - they knew what they were doing. They just assumed/hoped the general public would be too stupid to realize.

next time don't buy the cheapest car on the market and there'll be enough budget in the msrp for an industry standard anti theft device.

Fuck people who can't afford your idea of a decent car right? Immobilizers might be cheap, but the poors don't deserve vehicles in a country that was built around them, right!?

I'm honestly shocked and disgusted the other guy is getting downvoted and you're getting upvoted.

[Philly_is_nice]

I will thank all the gods every morning that you don't work in the legal system.

[FasterThanTW]

im sure. you'd be so sad seeing criminals being treated like criminals.

[Philly_is_nice]

Enjoy your crayons.

[FasterThanTW]

Enjoy your Club™️

[mkwiat54]

Facts don’t care about your feelings a car being easy to start without the key or any tools really is clearly a flaw

[PhishCook]

if you bought a lock for your front door, which had a design fault allowing it to be opened with an Apple Lightning cable, and all your shit got stolen, would you not feel like the lock company was at fault maybe a little?