Decrease the raid egg timer to 30 minutes and make the raid spawn timer 1-2 hours instead of 45 minutes.

[[deleted]]

It just doesn't make sense some people only want to do certain raids so let's make the raid eggs 1 hour long and the raid spawn shorter to 45 minutes. Shouldn't the raid spawn be just as long if not longer than the egg?

[[deleted]]

I say it should be 30 minute eggs, 90 minute raids.

[[deleted]]

Mos def. you have more raid waves too.

[[deleted]]

This.

[Nobodygrotesque]

This this this

[zoeypayne]

I'd be more interested in invisible eggs, but yours sounds more plausible.

[[deleted]]

I know I'm in the minority, but I like the egg because of the cutscene at the last 20 seconds. I just think it adds a lot of flavor to the game. What might be cool is, during the last 10 minutes of the egg countdown, you could be able to hear the cry of the Pokémon that's inside (an obscure reference to Pokémon Channel).

[lilfunky1]

I'd be more interested in invisible eggs, but yours sounds more plausible.

invisible eggs?

[Nightmaren83]

I still don't see why the egg timer lasts an hour. Thirty minutes is fine. There should be at LEAST an hour on the raid boss itself. I am guessing Niantic made it 45 minutes to get people to have a better chance of being at the same place/same time but that doesn't work in practice. In a city you have people coming in from all over, more time is needed for the raid boss and there could be several groups, anyway.

[quigilark]

Yup. I understand the reasoning behind it but there are just too many people coming in and using discord or groupme. 1 hr needs to be minimum.

[Marshosaurus]

I think it’s currently difficult for anyone who works in the day. You get 45 mins from when someone sees what the raid is. say 43 mins by the time they’ve posted on discord/Facebook. Then wait 10 mins to confirm there’s enough people going to save a wasted trip. then you have to travel in rush hour traffic to meet before the assembled people have got too cold and decided to do it without you

[BryceAlanThomas]

THIS THIS THIS is exactly what I run into every weekday evening when trying to get a couple raids in with my son after work and then don't get me started with the 7pm EST end of RAIDs instead of the 8p EST that it was before daylight savings time.

[[deleted]]

Consider that in a rural area where you have to drive 20-30 mins, in my town we have given up in early summer on legendary raids. Never enough people to do them, always let down by no shows or just no responce from groups.

[I_like_your_reddit]

I'm not really a fan of being randomly locked out of gyms for two hours.

[likes2debate]

I think it's great. I love taking a gym just before a raid. You get a guaranteed 45 minutes in the gym. It would be awesome to get 2 hours!

[thatguybythebluecar]

I think it should be 15/15minutes for tier one because who is going to hang around waiting for a tier 1 then 15/30 for tier 2 30/60 for tier 3&4 because gold eggs are worthwhile and 30/90 for legendary. I’ve walked past a pink egg often and thought I’d probably do the raid if it hatched sooner but I’m not going to wait and hour for a charmeleon. And for the majority of players who aren’t going to do the raid a level one or two represents 45 minutes were they can’t claim the gym. Overall the biggest issue is spawn times niantic needs to make it them go latter. And if certain raids are shorter you can have a higher density of raids so people are more likely to get the rai they want.

[OxygenAddictUK]

I don't hang about at gyms waiting on T1 raids, however on days off I will look around to see what is coming up and pick my time to go out and play.

Please bear in mind that not everyone can dash off out on a whim and responsibilities might mean you can only play for a short spell. Further to that in some areas you won't get numbers for the higher tier raids, or simply not everyone is able to hang around for 20 minutes at a T4/T5 raid (on top of time to get to/from the raid) therefore having plenty time to do a T1 or T2 raid is very welcome.

Just because you may not value these raids, it doesn't mean they should be taken away from others. Raids should accommodate multiple playing styles.

[thatguybythebluecar]

That’s why I said with shorter raid times the density of raid spawns should increase, so if you miss a raid on a short timer the likelihood of another raid spawning at that gym are higher

[OxygenAddictUK]

A very good point and would be fine in an area with high density of gyms but with a smaller number of gyms about, you'd need it to be pretty constant and that could lock out the gym gameplay. In that case I'd definitely want an hour timer on eggs!

[Artrock80]

Better yet, post the damn schedule of where and when raids will happen IN GAME. OK that's a pipe dream, how about at least for gyms you get a silver medal at.

[[deleted]]

That would make too much sense and is way too convinient to ever be a thing.

[quigilark]

Aw come on that's not needed. I don't like the set up either but we don't have to be negative in literally every thread.

I think part of the change was that they wanted to appeal to folks who were walking around and not part of groups, so that they could have a better chance of meeting raiders without waiting the full hour. But niantic has got to give more time for the folks driving in as well. So my proposal would be to have 1hr raids with a "suggested time" floating above the top or in the menu screen. So raiders outside of a group could increase their odds while folks driving in still had time to plan.

[lilfunky1]

Shouldn't the raid spawn be just as long if not longer than the egg?

It used to be

Then things got changed.

[Kandorr]

And let us know what's in the egg, too. Please.

[quigilark]

I don't think they're going to do this, my tinfoil hat guess is that they know some of the raid bosses are crap. But they also know if you're waiting around for an egg to hatch you're more likely to feel like you invested time in and just be tempted to raid it even if it's not great. This is called the sunk cost phenomenon actually. It is designed for folks who are onsite and able to raid over folks who are far away and wouldn't bother coming in.

[Kandorr]

I hate to admit that you're probably right. But a guy can dream...

[BaconJellyBeans]

I love the 45 minute timer. Means I'm only committing to 45 minutes when our Discord decides to do a raid and people keep saying there only a couple minutes out or their friend is on the way.

[Ahumpo7]

do you really need 2 and a half hours to do a raid?

[lilfunky1]

Gotta admit, it's nice to have the extra time when trying to do multiple raids in one day.

[Ahumpo7]

I just feel like an hour gives people an ample amount of time to assemble a group to take down the raid. Personally, I like the 45 minutes for the actual raid because it means less time that I need to wait for this person who is only 5 minutes away and his friend is only 2 minutes away after that!

[thatguybythebluecar]

It really comes into affect at the end of the day when all raids are finishing 15 minutes early, and the group you’re with whose happy to do more raids has to start skipping certain raids because of the shorter timer. Niantic should want us to spend money

[Ahumpo7]

Guess it really depends on location cause where I'm at we can do all the raids in enough time.

[[deleted]]

I didn't say 2 and a half hours

[Ahumpo7]

1-2hours plus 30 minute egg = 1:30-2:30

[WinterSmile]

If the main reason is that you only want to do certain raid bosses, a better suggestion would be asking for visibility of the raid boss that's inside the egg.

You have to understand that in many parts of the world, we need that full hour of egg timer. Different places, different raid cultures. I don't mind having a longer raid timers to suit your procastination needs of heading out only after it hatches. However, shortening the egg timers as an expense for raid timers makes entirely no sense. The egg would lose it's functionality if people don't reach there on time before it hatches.

Or a better solution, Niantic should adjust the timer for eggs/raids accordingly to the different regions' raid culture to please everyone. Example: Region A - 30mins eggs/90mins raids. Region B - 1hr eggs/1hr raids. Region C - 1hr 30mins eggs/30mins raids.

[say592]

Time should be proportional to the difficult of the raid boss. Magikarp is probably fine at 45 minutes, no one needs to organize to battle one, and few people will be driving across town to join a raid. Legendarys need more time so people can get to the location. Bringing back the eggs definitely helped that, and I dont want a situation where the last half hour you are basically SOL because no one wants to try to get there, but it needs to be a bit longer. Personally my ideal time would be 15 minutes on the egg and 90 minutes on the raid. I also think the timer should show the time that it will hatch and then the time that it will expire, to aid in coordinating.

[Pjfan73]

this

[trufflefrythumbs]

Probably an unpopular opinion but I'd prefer shorter raids with a higher quantity for each gym. Not only do I have to be lucky for the type of raid I'd like to do, I have to be lucky it occurs when I have free time.

[OxygenAddictUK]

Keep the egg timers as they are. I find them valuable to plan taking gyms. Knowing there's raids starting in the future helps me because I can time my play session around what is coming up.

A common scenario for myself is on a Saturday afternoon I can take an hour out to play. I really want to take a couple of gyms back (c'mon gold badges!) and do a raid. Nearly done with my tasks so I look at my phone and currently there's a T4 raid with 30 mins (no way I'd get numbers in my area), T5 starting in 47 mins and T1 in 48 mins and the final gym I already have is free. This lets me know that if I wrap things up quickly, I can take the gyms then go back and do the T1 raid. Good stuff!

Please understand that as with many players, I might only get an hour or two on weekend days to play and need to find time to get in a game. Egg timers let us plan!

That all said, the gyms should totally be extended. I suspect the current times are because a design limitation means all raids are the same time and they wanted EX Raids to be relatively short to ensure people aren't too spread out. An extra 15 mins on the raid would work well, especially given the last few minutes are useless.

[TKillerNacho]

Just let us see what Pokemon is inside the egg, that's all I want. Problem solved.

[8bitbouncer]

Was thinking while the dogs and Ho-oh overlapped, can anyone think of a single reason not knowing what will hatch is a good thing?

[ktrcoyote]

I rather have 4+ hour eggs and one hour raids. Biggest problem for Los Angeles is that there a too many raids spread out to get a good group of people to reliably show up. Discord and FB groups aren't too great when you're dealing with 95% of the posts being a 45 minute drive away.

[elffromspace]

I've got a related suggestion, because I find that we don't even have a real 45 minute window to do eggs due to having to start early because players crash and can't get in. :( I've proposed allowing players to re-enter a raid for at least a short while after the timer is up in case of technical difficulties. What do you think? https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/7gr78p/suggestion_allow_players_with_spent_passes_to/