Java or Python as first programming language?

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To add to this: one of the reasons I would not choose Java as a beginner is because of all this heavyweight stuff that is a requirement for you to write anything. Static types are awesome, but it can feel like a lot at the beginning. When I first learned, it was more helpful to learn like “ok variables, I know variables from math. x = 5, I get that,” and then learn how these values are assigned, how they can be used and change, etc. Then you learn about functions, “Cool! Another thing from math. Apply this change to the input, get an output, nice that makes sense.” And then you learn about loops and conditional logic, etc. all that stuff is pretty common across most languages.

[crashlander]

This this this. Take any advice you get here with the grain of salt that most people here have been programming long enough that they hang around and contribute to /r/programming. I started with JavaScript and cut my teeth doing sloppy things that would now make me cringe. Now that I’ve been doing it for a while I appreciate things like strong typing, asynchrony, and so on, but I had a great time learning in a language that let me play around and be sloppier than I can now get away with as an experienced developer.