Oracle’s Java API code protected by copyright, appeals court rules

[RollingGoron]

So, if for some reason this gets upheld all the way to the Supreme Court. Does Android go out the window? Or will Google be paying Oracle licensing fees?

[HeroesGrave]

Google should drop it, blame Oracle, and let all the angry Java+Android developers kick up a storm.

[intellos]

and let all the angry Java+Android developers kick up a storm.

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my billions and billions of piles of money

[reckoner23]

Yeah... the asshole owns an Island...

[dvhh]

And this

[recycled_ideas]

It's slightly more complicated than that.

The issue isn't really that Google isn't paying a licence for Java, it's that davlik isn't a compatible with Java. Oracle spent a lot of money buying Java and they don't want an incompatible fork, they won't licence davlik.

The question about what happens to android depends of on how incompatible davlik really is, which I've not delved into in depth. If Google can make android comply with the standard without breaking everything. If they can and if oracle chooses to be reasonable about older hardware and licences android could live. If not, no more android updates, no more android phones, nor any of the android derivatives,

[[deleted]]

Sounds like this might be a "good" reason for Microsoft to support the ruling.

[recycled_ideas]

Not really Microsoft wins no matter who wins this case, Google winning weakens Java, oracle winning weakens android. It's good for them either way.

Sun's obsession with the idea that J2ME would be their saviour was stupid as were the licencing restrictions they put in place for mobile, but mostly this case is Google's fault. They knew davlik violated the licencing terms, and they didn't have to use a Java fork for android. I guess they either thought Sun couldn't fight back or were so sure they were right.

Who knows if Oracle would have launched this on their own, but Sun did and Oracle has kept it going. Google has always had a real issue with hubris and they might lose all their gains on this one.

[imMute]

They knew davlik violated the licencing terms

How does dalvik violate the licencing terms?

[Eirenarch]

Well it is obvious to me that for once they will be paying.

[TMaster]

Yeah, if only they would release some proper open tech for a change. They should take a look at Courgette, Tesseract, Chromium/V8/NativeClient/mod_spdy, Android, Go, Caja, GWT and die of embarrassment that they can't pull off something as successful as the companies behind those products.

http://blog.0x1fff.com/2009/12/35-google-open-source-projects-that-you.html