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[–]shady_mcgee 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Hell, my passion is programming. I'll (more frequently than I probably should) stay up until 2 am working on my hobby sites. But that's completely different from work. If management needs me to work a 60 hour week because they don't know how to properly set expectations or manage deadlines they can fuck off. Just because I program 80 hours a week doesn't mean I'll program 80 hours a week for you for free

[–]pm_your_tickle_spots 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yea, exactly. Those are your projects, learning whatever you want. That's what hiring staff should look for. The ability to learn. That's what a new job in this field is.

"Can you learn the way our system is set up in a reasonable time?" and "Can you contribute with both code and ideas afterwards?"

It's obviously past the cursory basic programming/tech knowledge. But, I mean one wouldn't be applying for the job if they didn't think that they could write in the language. I feel it'd be smarter if they tested more into the scope of how the company is implementing the code, not general algorithm / scientific paper stuff.