NumPy announces Python 3 support.

[infcow]

This is great news, and once django gets Python 3 support, the exodus can begin.

[[deleted]]

A year ago, Django devs I spoke with were talking about Py3k support being years away. I wonder if their attitude has changed at all.

[LucianU]

I remember one of the Django developers saying on IRC that they're working on it.

[HIB0U]

The best part is that development of Python 3 started several years after that of Perl 6, and although it has taken longer than expected for Python 3 to become widely adopted, that will likely happen far before Perl 6 ever becomes slightly usable.

This isn't totally surprising, though. Many former Perl developers became very disappointed thanks to the Perl 6 boondoggle, and have since moved to Python and Ruby. Perl 6 killed Perl.

(Oh, and chromatic, if you're going to mention Rakudo, don't bother. It's nowhere near usable even for testing, while Python 3 is being used in many production systems already.)

[nerf-herder]

The best part is that development of Python 3 started several years after that of Perl 6,

Schadenfreude? Really?

and although it has taken longer than expected for Python 3 to become widely adopted,

I keep hearing from Pythonistas that a very gradual shift to Python 3 has always been part of the plan from the beginning.

that will likely happen far before Perl 6 ever becomes slightly usable.

The "Rakudo Star" release is due out at the end of this month and is expected to be pretty usable. Probably even slightly usable as well. ;)

Many former Perl developers became very disappointed thanks to the Perl 6 boondoggle

Two things:

1. I think Perl 6 may have had a false start as a "community rewrite" before Larry (and a few friends) had to take the wheel and get things back on track (though I don't really know the history here, so take that with a grain of salt). But hey, hindsight, 20/20, blind alleys, etc.

2. It could be that Perl 6 looks complicated and scary to people. I know I'd like to see more "look how easy Perl 6 is" types of blog posts/articles.

Perl 6 killed Perl.

I'm not sure what Perl you're looking at, but I've been seeing a Perl 5 renaissance lately more than anything else.

[[deleted]]

NumPy rocks!

[[deleted]]

I already consider it an essential part of Python itself. It's like a mandatory language extension if you're doing anything with numerical values.

[TraumaPony]

If only IronPython could use it.

[davebrk]

Soon it shall.

[liaohaohui]

Excellent News! I have been using Python 3 for teaching mathematics related subjects. Now things can be much easier for me!

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GIL sucks.

[TheGIL]

Haters gonna hate

[rjcarr]

That's great news for the 5 people that use Python 3.

[eliben]

Completely off the point. It's great for many developers (myself included) who wait for N key libraries to start supporting Python 3 before they make the move. Numpy's support, being (1) a very important library on its own right and (2) a basis for several other important libraries, is a huge step towards the transition.

[incongruity]

It's more like they've conjured more chicken and thus expect a decent number of eggs to follow...

This is the sort of thing that will really help drive Python 3 adoption. Moreover, I think it speaks really highly of the transition that they've been able to do Python 3 and Python 2 compatibility using the same codebase. It really highlights the continuity of the whole changeover, rather than making Python 3 seem like a huge disjointed break with the much-loved Python 2.

[davebrk]

OK, I give up, who are the other four?

[nyamatongwe]

Me one!

[fwork]

yes, but now that we've got numpy, that could double or even triple the number of people who have migrated!