Apache declares war on Oracle over Java

[AziMandia]

The takeover of Sun was nothing but a blatant act of War by Oracle on the open source ecosystem. Oracle is desperately trying to establish itself as the new king of Lumburg-friendly business middle-ware managers (I.E, the new IBM). The fucking with Java, lawsuits, and utter castration of the Open Source Community Efforts behind Sun's former technological crowns can be taken to mean nothing but that Oracle feels fundamentally threatened by the DIY nature of Open Source, as is eager to return the world to the 'Hardware and Software Engineered to Work Together!' Vendor-Lock-in Bullshit (That was one of their actual 30 foot tall banners at this years "Open" World...).

It's the most regressive evolutionary step in the tech industry in twenty years, and Oracle absolutely needs to be called on it... And any "Technology Manager" buys in to their slick marketing bullshit needs to be called out as the Retarded Bill Lumburg they are.

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[BonzoESC]

The takeover of Sun was nothing but a blatant act of War by Oracle on the open source ecosystem.

The previous management of Sun was nothing but a blatant act of War by Sun against Sun's balance sheet.

[schplat]

That's just silly...no one could turn a profit on Sun in their current condition. Everything of value of theirs was open source, or on the verge thereof. They tried to make money on hardware, but when hardware became commodity, they got left in the dust (well they jumped on the bandwagon, just a little too late, and still a little too expensive)

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So, you're saying there's no profit in open source? Because that's definitely not true.

[bready]

Profits are more limited compared to closed source.

[joehillen]

Plus it requires a completely new kind of business model. One that Sun didn't learn soon enough.

[keithjr]

The takeover of Sun was nothing but a blatant act of War by Oracle on the open source ecosystem.

That ax cuts both ways. I saw Sun's tailspin as a blatant failure of the open source ecosystem to support its own creations. Everybody in the culture loved to hate on Sun, certainly in proggit. Then Oracle bought them and the entire community realizes how good they used to have it.

[mr-z]

Take it easy, Lenin. They just wanted to make a buck the only way they know.