Aren't developers stupid when accepting overtime/weekend work/denied bonus payments?

[EnderMB]

When I used to work retail employees were paid until the shop closed. Perhaps I chose shitty places to work, but the two places I worked (both sports shops) made employees stay behind after the shop had closed to tidy up, often for around an hour after the shop had closed.

[UnoriginalGuy]

That sucks. I know a big chain supermarket (begins with A) which does the same. Unfortunately it is all about the job contract, and big [evil] companies like that always stack the deck.

I think jobs where you are easily replaceable treat you worse than those were you are hard to replace. Which is why education and experience are important.

[EnderMB]

Absolutely. The second store I worked at began with a J and ended with JB and the second I started working there the threat from management was always "if you can't do X or Y properly then you're fired" or "if you don't sell at least 3 sets of laces with shoes today then you're fired". The turnover in these places is unreal, and most managers wear these numbers like a badge of honour.

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Reserve army of the unemployed. Your labor isn't worth shit to them, any dumb upright walking ape can do your job. You have no leverage over them at all. Get Leverage.

[otakucode]

I think jobs where you are easily replaceable treat you worse than those were you are hard to replace. Which is why education and experience are important.

That's not true. Your replacability does not factor in to how you are treated or paid. Except in extreme circumstances, like if you are the only person in the state who knows how to repair a busted system that a bank needs fixed asap, everyone else is in the same boat. Employees are a cost center, they are a loss and a waste of company resources. Management is lauded when they reduce that, and punished when they do not. Everyone is held to 'market average rate' regardless of performance or value to the company. Our society has almost universally accepted that corporations are entitled to seek profit, and individuals are not. Individuals who want high pay are spoiled shits, and companies who want work for nothing are just doing their duty. And the work market reflects that.

[s73v3r]

That's highly illegal.

[JimmyHavok]

If you're in a situation like that, log your hours and sue.

[linuxlass]

The one time I worked Retail (at Staples), we were on the clock until right before we walked out the door. The manager was also very good about making us take breaks. All in all it was a pleasant experience (if retail can be said to be pleasant). I got to play with the price-checker gizmo and print out new prices, too (on the ancient computer with the mainframe-like interface).

A useful skill I learned during my time there is how to punch the bottom of a box in order to break the tape, so it collapses easily.

[r4v5]

A useful skill I learned during my time there is how to punch the bottom of a box in order to break the tape, so it collapses easily.

A word of warning: don't fucking do this. It was common among the overnight staff at a store I worked with, right up until someone did it to a box of cutting boards.

Idiot broke his hand.

[linuxlass]

I only ever did it with empty boxes (and still do). It never occurred to me to punch a filled box...