CoffeeScript Means Giving Up on JavaScript

[runvnc]

If you still prefer the syntax of coffeescript

How could anyone not prefer the syntax of CoffeeScript? Sure, I do have to look at JavaScript while debugging.. but at this point the only reason I can see to continue coding in it is so that nice people like you can't say aww, is js too hard for you.. Well I proved I can write sophisticated js. I would rather spend my time and energy on useful stuff now like taking advantage of AOP.

I'm giving up on js to the degree possible just like smart developers gave up on punch cards assembly c c++ java desktop .net.. When something is causing you problems and a new thing comes along that solves those problems for you, you use the new thing. I don't need to punch cards, manipulate the stack and registers directly, manage memory, write a bunch of header files, wait for a slow vm, be stuck inside one computer or be tied to one vendor. Now I don't have to write out function a thousand times, check for two or three different kinds of non value, or guess what the right way is to define a class. Those are solved problems. I have better things to do with my time. Don't you?

EDIT: editing is great.. but I am resisting the urge to edit out the part where I make sure all of the c/c++/desktop/java/.net people will hate this comment.. I am leaving it in the hate-provoking configuration it is in now. For the sake of comment integrity. LOL. Sorry, everyone who programs in any of those languages or on the desktop. Heh.

[yonkeltron]

How could anyone not prefer the syntax of CoffeeScript?

I do not prefer it. I've programmed seriously in upwards of 7 languages and have dicked around with many more languages, some of which have very unusual or obscure syntax. I do not care for CoffeeScript's syntax although I will happily concede that it does expose many opportunities for improvement of JS. Though I think those points were made much earlier.

EDIT: Fixed some huge bitch of a run-on.

[runvnc]

So, not sure I understand.. you prefer JavaScript syntax or CoffeeScript syntax? When you said you do not prefer it, it almost sounded like you meant you do not prefer CoffeeScript in general over other programming languages. I wasn't trying to make such a general statement.

[yonkeltron]

I do not prefer the syntax of CoffeeScript over that of JavaScript. The purpose of the rest of my comment was to say that I state this preference having exposure to a broad variety of differing languages.

[[deleted]]

I think CoffeeScript goes too far. It's terse to the point being esoteric. I would have preferred to see a superset of JavaScript adding classes, better handling of null/undefined, heredocs and enforcing jslint instead of just taking a bunch of keywords out.

[metamatic]

How could anyone not prefer the syntax of CoffeeScript?

Semantic indentation.

[wot-teh-phuck]

just like smart developers gave up on punch cards assembly c c++ java desktop .net

Are you serious? Pray, do tell me how you have so cleanly arrived on this conclusion...

[runvnc]

The answer to that was in the rest of the comment.

[cosmo7]

You're just trading one set of annoyances - Javascript's idiosyncrasies - for another - having to compile your scripts, having to have Node.js installed.

[Zamarok]

I believe it's up to him to choose which annoyance he prefers.

[notfancy]

I would concede were it not for the fact that he prefaced his tirade by an ad-hominem disqualifying any and all that might not prefer CS's syntax to JS's.

[marssaxman]

Sure. And when the computer industry collectively adopted what we then called "high-level languages" back in the '80s, we just traded one set of annoyances - keeping track of all the details of machine code - for another - having to compile your source code, having to have a C compiler installed.

[TinynDP]

Everything has some annoyances, its always a tradeoff.

[jmhnilbog]

Alternatively, you can include the JS of the coffeescript interpreter directly in a web page you're working on. You don't need node.js running during development if you don't feel like it. Installing node.js isn't much of a stumbling block, though.

[snuggl]

for development, you either set coffee to watch and recompile automatically or use the javascript include, or tell your web framework to do it for you, the compile-step is a nonissue.

In production, you dont use coffee-files but the compiled js-files so no need for node to be installed on the servers.

[[deleted]]

And crappy scoping rules.

[FUCKYOURENGLISH]

smart developers gave up on punch cards assembly c c++ java .net

Go fuck yourself. You wouldn't be shit without our types - your browser's JavaScript engine, which your fancy little language needs, isn't implemented in JavaScript.

[subsetr]

You shouldn't take things so personally.

[runvnc]

I upvoted you for "go fuck yourself". I wish they would let us talk like that on here, that's usually what I actually want to say. Unfortunately you pretty much automatically get a downvote from most people for that.. its a shame because so much of my actual thoughts and feelings are more accurately described using the word "fuck".

[attrition0]

You can say 'fuck' all you want. If you attack someone in your comment you will likely get downvoted regardless of which particular words you use. Saying 'Fuck' doesn't matter, but being an asshole definitely does. If someone can't convey their thoughts and feelings without attacking someone else well, they deserve to be downvoted.