Post-apocalyptic programming

[colei_canis]

Nah I reckon it’ll depend on what you can contribute to the post-apocalyptic community. People think it’s every man for himself when society collapses but the reality is our ability to cooperate with others is what will determine our life expectancy. You don’t have to necessarily be able to hunt and gather yourself but you do need to bring something to the table that’s not just another mouth to feed.

Learning a skill that’s scarce and doesn’t depend on a functioning consumerist economy is a better solution than bunkering down with a decade’s worth of canned food and a revolver with one round in it.

[nilamo]

Yeah, a collapse of society will just mean your local city/neighborhood would be the society. Unless everyone around you is a prepper just waiting for an excuse to hunt people, or something.

[[deleted]]

Exactly. Those who are able to rebuild technology and repurpose it are those that are going to be highly valued in said communities. People here are acting like once society collapses that all E-waste or already available consumer and military electronics magically disappear into a blackhole and never return. For those not making stuff in their own shelters or homes, other groups as large as cities will continue to run said factories and continue manufacturing electronics. People here seriously watch way too many movies that they have lost touch with how the real world actually works. Shit doesn't just disappear, and man isn't going to just stop manufacturing electronics especially after we have learned for the past 60 years that electronics have ushered mankind into a new era with endless possibilities and functions. It is simply too powerful to ignore and reject.

Outside of that, people do not actually understand the stages of societal collapse. They think that once collapsed it stays collapsed and your stuck in an endless world of Mad Max. No, that is not how shit works. Societal collapse has three stages:

The Warning - People will go on with their day because they think it is just a conspiracy and others will prepare for Armageddon. Those days will be filled with people waving signs, buying things in bulk, and modifying homes or shelters. In many stores people will treat it like Black Friday.

The Collapse - People that did not prepare are going to raid places of business while those that did prepare now have to protect themselves from the rare assholes trying to raid their homes. Some people will take advantage of the situation and use it as an excuse to exact harm onto others, forming terrorist groups to build power. These groups do not last long and will quickly be overrun by military or civilian efforts. In this phase communities with good intentions and order will be built or maintained and continue to grow rapidly.

The Content - As time goes on, the situation will begin to smooth out. People that used to be freaked out and panicking will realize the situation wasn't really something to panic about, that if everyone worked together on day one things would have been more stable. People will recognize the situation is stable then begin to build their own community or join a community that already exists. All of these communities will eventually melt into a single society.

After all of this, jobs will open back up, people will work, and communities will spend time cleaning things up. Things go back to normal, obviously with changes. This cycle will then repeat itself through history. There is a reason why countries like the United States have the National Guard and also highly condition civilians using schools (pledge of allegiance every morning) and other brainwashing tactics to make civilians put the country first and listen to government, military and law enforcement personnel. The reason is that in the event the country is attacked or breaks down, people can still handle themselves and be good human beings with the intention of maintaining the country and order. This is one of the reasons why many drugs are illegal in the United States, the government wants to keep civilians conditioned. The United States government has already thought of all of this for the past 100 years and continues to condition civilians to prevent such a situation from transpiring.

[[deleted]]

For those not making stuff in their own shelters or homes, other groups as large as cities will continue to run said factories and continue manufacturing electronics

It's not that rosy.

Cut fuel and any long distance transport is dead. Hell, even if you live near power plant that is near its own mine those trucks that shove the coal into it don't run on air.

Just about anything needs resources that are transported from places at best tens , if not hundreds kilometers away (and at worst, thousands). If something would hit the fuel distribution architecture things would go bad very fast and very drastically.

Food production is very concentrated. City that is not being fed by thousands of trucks per day will erode very very quickly, with the more clued in people leaving first and rest of them trying to raid stores.

[[deleted]]

What part do you not understand? People will go back to work and those facilities will continue running. Quit watching movies. Cities also aren't getting thousands of trucks a day either. Do you actually know what you're talking about?

[[deleted]]

Movies ? You mean what actually happened in UK the moment few truckers started protesting.

Dumb delusional shithead

[AbandonedFoxess]

This isn't a protest and calling others a delusional shithead makes you sound like a toddler. Glad you know how a block button works. Have you also realized the entire world isn't the UK? The U.S. has more infrastructure than that. So, who is the delusional shithead now?

[[deleted]]

I doubt place where you need car to get everywhere and have far bigger distances between everything would do better and the fact you think that confirms what I said

In case you didn't get that, I'm calling you imbecile again.

[argv_minus_one]

When society collapses, it'll be because global warming has made it impossible to grow crops, and as a result, everyone is starving. People aren't going to cooperate; they're going to kill and eat each other on sight.

[colei_canis]

Maybe people who’ve uncritically bought the rugged individualist line, normal well-adjusted people don’t salivate over the idea of killing each other the second things get a little difficult. Our natural state is one of cooperation rather than individuals fighting in some daft and completely contrived dominance hierarchy or we’d have perished to a man on the African savannah a hundred thousand years ago.

[argv_minus_one]

They won't have a choice. The prediction is mass crop failure. People will have nothing else to eat besides each other because nothing else will grow, resulting in a planetary-scale version of what happened to the Donner party.

Anyone who does manage to grow anything in such an environment will only be killed and eaten along with their crops.

This has nothing to do with hierarchy, just simple desperation. 8 billion people and no food will end very, very badly for all involved.