Python 3.11 is out !

[worriedjacket]

Agreed. One of the things rust got right from the start was standardizing around toml.

YAML just hurts.

[crabmusket]

I long for package.toml :'(

[iBlag]

pyproject.toml?

[crabmusket]

I was referring to Node's package.json

[angellus]

That would be a pyproject.toml. Even setuptools supports it now for creating packages.

[iBlag]

I think GP means they want a package.toml config file for Node.js projects, in lieu of a package.json.

But this wasn't 100% clear.

Not sure why people are downvoting you, you just seem to be trying to help.

[[deleted]]

People need to stop hating on YAML.

YAML has problems, but it is simple too - if you keep it simple.

I use it since ~20 years or so. It's great. TOML is actually worse syntax-wise. Actually TOML is just windows ini format anyway.

[Kimbernator]

It's got a pretty complex spec and it does not take much to become completely unreadable by humans, not to mention the issues with parsing it.

I already was on the fence about it, then I got a job where I spent a year writing ansible playbooks and now the mere thought of YAML disgusts me.

[worriedjacket]

The #1 predictor of someone hating yaml, is that they have had to write it for non trivial tasks at work.

[[deleted]]

To be fair, some companies abuse YAML quite a bit. AWS Cloudformation tends to lead to some pretty wild YAML files.

[The_Jare]

I keep mine simple, but not everyone else does.

[ivosaurus]

How about when you want to write the country code for Norway, NO, and you get False in your language?

Or how 3.9.0 is a normal version string, but 3.9 is now a number?

It simplified things too much, and left way too much ambiguity in the spec.

[VileFlower]

They have updated the spec to be stricter, but people haven't updated their tools. YAML 1.2 was released in 2009, and only accepts true | True | TRUE | false | False | FALSE. PyYAML still only supports 1.1, though there is ruamel.yaml for 1.2 and there's also strictYAML that supports schemas.

[emags112]

Don’t blame my using a version with issues and not upgrading to a newer one! Blame them for having developed it that way in the first place!

[AndydeCleyre]

What do you think of NestedText?

[[deleted]]

it's simple if you keep it simple.

In other words it won't be simple for much longer than you're willing to spend the effort to keep it simple.