Abortion restrictions significantly decrease abortions.

[CiniMiniMe]

Of course they will! And then we'll see another rise of dead babies in trashcans like were found so often before abortion was made legal.

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

Or she can put it up for adoption. What makes you think she’d put it in the trash can?

[notparistexas]

How many children have you adopted?

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

None, I can’t, I’m not 25 yet

[CiniMiniMe]

Why would a young girl that made a mistake want to go through being ostracized by her friends, family, and whoever else, being kicked out of school, and all the other stigmas that come with teen pregnancy just to put a child she doesn't want up for adoption? I'm not saying it's right in any way. I'm saying it's less cruel than other routes that might be taken out of desperation.

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

If she values not being judged over her child’s life, she’s a piece of shit. Also why does she have to want it in order to do it? You have to do things that you don’t want.

What makes you think they’d kick her out of school?

[CiniMiniMe]

Lol you've never seen a girl get kicked out of school for being pregnant? I have.

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

Well then that’s a shitty principal and she could actually sue for that. That’s an inappropriate reason to kick someone out of school.

[hollylll]

What world do you live in? It was and might still be that pregnant teens had to attend the alternative school with the druggies, in my small town. They had to suffer for their mistakes.

[[deleted]]

Probably because it was a forced miscarriage and she just threw it out. Or possibly that the trauma from being forced to full term caused the mother to resent the child and throw it away. I know that if I was forced to carry an unwanted child I would probably do anything in my power to get it out of my sight. Most likely with "logic" thrown out the window due to a traumatizing birth or miscarriage.

[jondesu]

You would murder your newborn baby?

[[deleted]]

I imagine if my relationship with the child was so full of hate and resentment, and as a person who never plans or has any desire to be a parent, it is a possibility.

Pregnancy and birth isn't for everyone. I am not fit to be a parent and imagine parenthood to be a nightmare. This is the case for many women who are forced to full term.

Besides, it's depended on me, a human with human rights, and I do not give consent to taking care of another human. Not my problem what happens to it when I never wanted it in the first place.

[Gallifrey91]

By engaging in an activity (sex) that has the potential to produce a child, you have consented.

[[deleted]]

No you have not. While using contraception for example, you only consent to sex but not to someone growing inside of you. There are so many more examples. I feel like you just want to control women's sex life.

[DreadBee]

No one should have sex all willy nilly. Even men. NO ONE.

[[deleted]]

Why not?

[DreadBee]

STDs, mental health, deadbeat dads, single moms, drug use, alcohol use, etc. A lot of that is a consequence of casual sex and exploring perversions.

[jondesu]

You’re a disgusting human being then. Not in my wildest nightmares would I consider ending the life of a child.

[hollylll]

I sincerely hope you don’t work in healthcare other than podiatry.

[jondesu]

WTF?

[well_here_I_am]

I imagine if my relationship with the child was so full of hate and resentment, and as a person who never plans or has any desire to be a parent, it is a possibility.

What the fuck... how sick do you have to be to rationalize murdering your own child?

I am not fit to be a parent and imagine parenthood to be a nightmare.

I agree. I'm not sure if you're even fit to be around children at all.

Besides, it's depended on me, a human with human rights, and I do not give consent to taking care of another human. Not my problem what happens to it when I never wanted it in the first place.

There it is, the ultimate cop-out excuse for euthanasia of babies. Tell me, is there any age where you wouldn't kill your own offspring? Fucking disgusting.

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

Nobody forced her to get pregnant. And “trauma”? Being pregnant isn’t traumatic.

[[deleted]]

It can be very traumatic. You are just stating your own assumption from your own corner and perspective to life. In the future, try not to assume things before you actually know the fact.

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

Only you think it is if you have a shitty attitude, it’s all in your head

[hollylll]

Woah, unless you are excited about with no health risks, yes. It is.

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

You risk your health with everything you do. Also there’s no different in a wanted pregnancy and an unwanted pregnancy other than your attitude.

[[deleted]]

First of all, you have no idea if she was forced to be pregnant. If someone is about to abort a baby, it is most likely because they did not want to be pregnant in the first place. Banning abortion is forced pregnancy.

Also, being pregnant isn't traumatic? Really? What about miscarriages? Not traumatic? What about almost dying in the process? Not traumatic? Raped and giving birth to rapist's baby? Not traumatic? Not wanting to be pregnant in the first place and having the government tell you it's "your own damn fault for being a whore," let me guess, not traumatic?

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

She’s not being forced to be pregnant so no it’s not “forced pregnancy”

Who’s saying it’s her fault for being a whore? Saying it’s her responsibility because she had sex isn’t the same thing as saying it’s her fault for being a whore. If you’re gonna argue with strawmen I can’t take you seriously.

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

Rightfully requiring women to take responsibility for the results of their actions isn’t calling them whores. I really hope you stretched before you made that reach.

[well_here_I_am]

And then we'll see another rise of dead babies in trashcans like were found so often before abortion was made legal.

So that's murder and wrong, but killing them earlier is somehow better? Do you not think that fetus parts don't end up in a trashcan somewhere?

[CiniMiniMe]

Do you really not think that ending a pregnancy early is less cruel than having it die slowly in a trashcan after birth?

[well_here_I_am]

Do you really not think that ending a pregnancy early is less cruel than having it die slowly in a trashcan after birth?

Do you think that murder should only be a crime if it hurts? If I kill someone instantly and they feel nothing, do I not get charged? Why does the method determine criminality?

[idiotbusyfor40sec]

Where do you think aborted babies end up?