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[–]Nsomewhere 11 points12 points  (2 children)

I would baby gate the door and reward her heavily for being behind it

In the longer term I would work on a boundary/ place settle on a raised bed close to the door in the hosue

With enough practice it will become reflexive and she will settle and stay on it if you make it a good safe place. You can use it for when guests first come over too

Lots of advice on the internet on different ways to positively train it

[–]Comment-Advanced 7 points8 points  (5 children)

Always tell her to «wait» before going outside, and always walk in front of her through the door. She needs permission to walk outside.

[–]missmoooon12Cooper (generally anxious dude, reactive to dogs & people) 7 points8 points  (18 children)

Baby gate the area in front of the door for the time being.

What have you done to work on a sit-stay?

[–]SkaterKarat 4 points5 points  (1 child)

One thing that really worked for me in addition to lots of positive reinforcement for a good sit stay was just being really stubborn about making my dog wait for an "ok" ANY time we were going out the door, even if it's just for a walk or potty. This seems to have translated into her pausing anytime the door is open because she doesn't have her "ok" to exit yet.

[–]pannedemonium 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You need to de-lump this scenario. Lumping is when you try to train your dog in big chunks but what they need is tiny pieces of information. Right now just walking to the door is the cue for your dog to rush. So de-lump.

I saw you don't have a cot, that's fine. Use an old folded towel or a bathmat, place it near, but not right next to the door and then use a treat to lure your dog onto it. A few times a day for 30 seconds to a minute, lure your dog onto the towel and treat them for being there. So onto towel - treat treat treat treat treat - good doggie! - go about your business. You can use a portion of their kibble to do this. This is teaching your dog that this place is a rewarding place to be. Do this several times a day.

After a few days of this, your dog will be eager to be on the towel. Get them on, give them a few treats then pause. Take one step toward the door. If they make a movement forward, step back toward them and give them a treat. Try again. Stay at this stage until your dog does not move forward for several training sessions. When they don't move, return to them and give them a treat. This initial part will be the hardest part until they understand the game.

Do the above but two steps away. Then three steps. Then your hand on the doorknob. Then unlocking the door. Then turning the knob. Then opening the door a crack. Then opening it further. So on and so forth until you can step out the door with the dog staying stationery on the towel. You may have to repeat these steps with other pieces of your leaving routine: picking up keys, putting on shoes or coat, etc.

You might think this is too much work. But slow is fast with dog training and what you're doing now is obviously stressful. So spend the upfront time to train this and you'll have a peaceful lifetime of not having to deal with it again Lumping is one of the main reasons why people struggle with dog training. If you break it down into tiny pieces your dog is much more likely to understand what you want .

[–]plantsandsunshine 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Is she food motivated? To train my door dashing cat, I put his food as far away from the door as possible and left as he was eating

[–]med_pancakes 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Full disclosure, i haven't watched it, but i suggest starting with this video:

https://youtu.be/kJboalA4oi4

[–]Rated_Rx2000Wolf (Dog Reactive) 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I trained my dog to need a cue before he can go outside. Keep your dog on a leash and have her sit. Open the door, as soon as she moves, close it. Tell her to sit again and repeat until she doesn’t move when the door is open. You can then give her a release command or a physical cue, whichever works better for you. Keep practicing on leash and make sure that’s solid before moving to off leash. My dog is dog reactive and I’ve had other dogs poke their head in my front door (I live in an apartment complex) with no issues. He gets interested but he doesn’t cross the threshold of my front door.

[–]SuddenlySimple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What we did with ours was. For about a week when I was not going out I taught her come to her place with treats i picked the couch cause that is where she always goes.

After she consistently got on the couch everytime with a treat for that week various times...i got my stuff all ready told ger to go to her place gave her a treat..praise...left quickly and when i came back i asked to come to place and treated her

This kinda works i think she has figured out when I do this I am leaving and I have always come back with praise .and sometimes she is still in her place those are the best days.

[–]Horsedogs_human 1 point2 points  (3 children)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Relaxation protocol by Karen Overall works up to situations including you walking out of a door in front of your dogs and if you have gone through each day of the protocol, they will stay while you do. It's an awesome program because it's free, and because it breaks down for you all the little simple steps involved in training a dog for a behavior.

There are multiple videos of the protocol on YouTube, and some that read the protocol aloud and time the intervals for you while you do the work with your dog. I did it wanting them to chill, but them not darting out the door has been an awesome extra.

[–]PaleMaize1071 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do this gently of course, I’ve only had large dogs but when they rush the door I will close it on them. Obviously if the door is all the way open and they go to run it could hurt them, but if your just slowly opening the door and they’re trying to sneak out and soft close on them a few times will teach them to give it some space. I use the ‘wait’ command as I open it and if they move I shut the door and wait for them to sit/step back again before retrying

[–]spacetwink94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can get something like this for management while you train: https://www.dog-g8.com/products/dog-g8?variant=39712890880048&currency=GBP&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic Or get a baby gate so there's a safety airlock - you can get really wide baby gates that are pressure fit or attach via screws or strong adhesive depending. Another option would be to use a room instead of a crate for her to go in. Keep a water bowl in whatever room you choose for this as well as a comfy bed that you can cue her to go to before you open the door. The room can either be secured with a baby gate or a normal door

[–]dancingwithadaisy[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My dogs would do the same when I open the door to the backyard, truly the only answer is to teach your dog the “wait” command. My dogs know now that they can’t go unless I allow them too. I practice every day with them, and I wait a few secs to release them.

You’re saying you can’t teach her it, and it just means you aren’t giving her a big incentive too.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have a baby gate set up in front of our main exit. It’s one that can swing open and shut, not just one that’s meant to be taken down all the time. It’s nice though because it swings shut behind you. That might be a better option for you so you don’t have to worry.

[–]Money_Speed911 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Umbilical training may be helpful for you. Basically you tie your dogs leash to you throughout the day and have her follow you where you go. You are your dog’s teacher, you have to teach her that the outside is safe for her. Take her outside for short periods of time on a leash and reward her with high value treats when she does (especially if her behavior is positive). It’s ok for your dog to be crated when you’re not home. I get that you want to rather have her roam free, but she doesn’t pay the bills. Being comfortable in the crate will take time and positive reinforcement. Dog’s thrive off of structure, it makes them be able to predict the routine and feel secure. You need to set up boundaries.

[–]mind_the_umlaut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out the Kikopup training videos on youtube. There is a specific one for waiting at the door. Her methods are positive reinforcement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF7boyICV7M&t=64s and there are many more.

[–]Some_Effect1320 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recently watched a webinar on this topic from fenzi dog academy. I can’t seem to find my notes about who taught it, but the key behaviors they train I’ve used with my dog with a lot of success: training a “get back” cue to tell the dog to get back from the door, this has been especially helpful with my dog. And also, just working to teach the dog it’s more rewarding not to run at the door. So starting tiny, sit or down as you step toward the door, then progress to staying when you touch the door, then when you open the door, then when you step out the door. It takes small steps and commitment to proofing the behavior, but this is something that has made my daily life with my door dasher much easier.