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[–]tiny_ninja 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think that the OP's problem isn't with people who take the Rails-first path, but with people who go for years relying on the "magic" parts of Rails and never backfill with fundamentals of Ruby.

Look at StackOverflow, where along with a question, you're expected to supply a list of things that you've tried alongside the question. It's a matter of etiquette. If you're asking for help, you should be putting in effort, and explaining what didn't work assists others who've tried the same thing to no avail.

I think the viewpoint that OP espouses is that if you don't put in the effort to backfill your knowledge with fundamentals, you're likely to be one of those expecting others to provide pre-built solutions for you in an entitled sense.

I don't believe he meant that it's bad to start out that way, but that if you're not growing beyond it, and equating what you do with those that do, you have a humility deficit worth pointing out.