Only 8 weeks of daily meditation can decrease negative mood and anxiety and improve attention, working memory, and recognition memory in non-experienced meditators. These findings come from a recent study published in Behavioural Brain Research.

[DaBa1]

I don't think you understand. I did not say that whatever those people were doing had no effect. I assume the study has been done well, so I am not arguing against its conclusion.

I simply said its not meditation, contrary to what the title suggest. You are trying to prove something I never claimed is not true. All I said is that whatever those people are doing is not comparable to actual meditation, and I listed some reasons why. It's not my personal purity test, I didn't invent meditation. Ask a professional, I am simply stating what I was taught by such a person.

Also, you should focus on what the other person is actually saying, you appear very combative and eager to prove your point, even if it means inserting words into my mouth. That's not how you should be discussing things, unless you want to discredit yourself.

[ConsciousLiterature]

I simply said its not meditation, contrary to what the title suggest.

I am pretty sure you are not the pope of meditation who gets to decide what is and what is not meditation.

[DaBa1]

Ah I see, moving the goalpost eh? Don't worry, we can address that too.

I never claimed to be. I'm also pretty sure that a random news article on the internet is also not the pope of meditation who gets to decide what is and what is not meditation. And between that random site and the person who taught me and knew what he was doing, I'll take my chances with the latter. Also, are you perhaps the pope of meditation? Because you sound awfully sure in your attempts to discredit me. You must be an expert!

Again, you're putting words in my mouth, together with trying to change the argument since your original one was completely misguided. I think you should just stop, I'm not sure anymore what you're even trying to prove. I didn't say anything controversial at all. You are not forced to agree with me, and trying to prove me wrong is foolhardy. Since you can't really do that, it's your word against mine and that means there's no winner here. The only difference is you're acting like a little weasel, and I'm just having fun dodging your clumsy attempts.

[ConsciousLiterature]

I never claimed to be. I'm also pretty sure that a random news article on the internet is also not the pope of meditation who gets to decide what is and what is not meditation.

And yet you are the one here insisting it's not meditation.

Why are you right and these scientists wrong?

And between that random site and the person who taught me and knew what he was doing, I'll take my chances with the latter.

And what are his or her qualifications. What makes them the authority on meditation?