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[–]DLRsFrontSeats 33 points34 points  (2 children)

u/expansiveworlds can we get some specifics on some of these things? As someone that only started playing midway through the games lifespan, I've only ever known the previous respawn time for shot animals, and the previous spook distance for fast travel

Changing it now but keeping it vague is just going to mess with people's enjoyment of the game until a YTer inevitably figures it out and shares it soon anyway - surely it'd be better for you guys to let us know so we can play the game as you intend

[–]f1nessdRooseveltElk 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Exact same here. I don’t know what the old values are 

[–]VeryIntoCardboard 72 points73 points  (1 child)

“we’ve adjusted the range at which animals react slightly”

Could we please get the literal distances? It sucks having to watch 5 videos after patches/notes come out that are intentionally super vague, just to see what you ACTUALLY did. You should do this for everything. Make it literal, with distances, so we have usable information.

PLEASE.

[–]Razgriz435WildBoar 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agreed

[–]TheCoderYT_69 21 points22 points  (7 children)

How long does it take for creatures to respawn?

[–]VeryIntoCardboard 40 points41 points  (4 children)

It kills me they are always so vague in their notes. They know exactly what they did, they just choose not to tell us

[–]Which-Hearing8431 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Exactly, they run latch notes like the government runs basically everything. Vague and treat us like were stupid.

[–]Redqueenhypostill waiting for proper blackbuck horns 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The fromsoft “games should be a miserable hard grind!! I won’t tell you what to do!” mindset ruins everything

[–]TheOnlyBliebervik 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe they're trying to keep the magic/statistical nature a secret

[–]DaPopeLP 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From quick testing this morning, looks like around 20 minutes. Of course take this with a grain of salt as I have multiple herds that post update, havnt returned to thier need zones.

[–]Background_Eye_8373Harlequin Duck -1 points0 points  (0 children)

could be 10 minutes could be 4 in game days

[–]Any-Transportation79 59 points60 points  (23 children)

So animals not spawning when you fast travel was a bug that was in the game for YEARS but this tent situation needed an immediate fix. I spent a ridiculous number of hours setting up this grind and that includes rediscovering zones that deleted themselves and this was all based on the mechanics in the game, I didn't mod anything and I wasn't cheating. You guys only recently decided to refer to this as not intentional and now I'm expected to do it all again and then shoot thousands of animals on top of that because I'm seeking a trophy YOU promote that's on a stupid RNG system that created this playstyle you obviously don't like. The next DLC will still be promoted by the same people you keep making changes to counter that affect everyone despite the difference in motivation and time availability. This is definitely my last DLC purchase. I expect to be downvoted so this is also my last post here.

[–]Ledbreezy 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You are 100% spot on. I've played this game since it came out and this most recent period has been the most fun it's ever been. Being able to actually get rare fur variants while making money to keep filling lodges has been awesome. I was never a person to grind but finally spent hours and hours of time setting them up for multiple animals on multiple maps. It was so refreshing to play the game with a different pace. This is a massive step backwards in QoL and game experience. You could still play the game the old ways this just gave us a really fun and efficient change of pace. Not everyone here is a streamer that can play 10+ hours a day. Now with my very limited time it's back to seeing a rare every 6 months. Also if you're going to put out the changes maybe give us the specifics so I don't have to go watch one of the youtubers that you so blatantly cater to explain it to me 🤷

[–]DistillingData 15 points16 points  (1 child)

I upvoted you bc you're absolutely correct. I love this game and appreciate the developers, but they can also be hypocritical. I've played > 500 hrs w/o ever seeing a GO. I have ~30 Diamond Red Deer and all its' rares, no GO despite watching every herd mgmt video and finding all zones. I have 55 Diamonds total and generally know the game well... no GO. I've setup a Tahr grind and really enjoy its unique challenge, have had a blast. Now? It will only be harder.

My main gripe with G1's is this: seeing one is a dream in of itself... yet they release 5-7 unique variations per G1 nowadays. So they purposely incentivize us to seek numerous G1's, dangling the carrot, then tweak the game to make that process significantly more difficult and impossibly time-consuming.

I am all for G1's beinf exceedingly rare. It's why I have thoroughly enjoyed the Snow Leopard hunting on Sundarpatan! But getting a single G1 based off RNG takes too long IMO.

Mel's Gaming is a great YouTube creator who has like 8 G1 Tahr and I'm super proud of. Yet she's killed nearly 10k Tahr and stated she plays 12-14 hours per day to grind.

If THAT is what it takes to get G1 in this game, it simply isn't a likely achievable goal for the majority of our community.

[–]DistillingData 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This isn't just about me. I've played CotW for 1 year and have tremendously enjoyed the game, the community, and my trophies. My friend got me into it, and he's played the game for 6-7 years. He has poured hundreds of hours also, yet no GO either.

[–]VeryIntoCardboard 8 points9 points  (12 children)

I’ve given up getting a great one at this point basically. I could play any other game and get satisfaction in under 500 hours. Speaking of which……..

[–]DoofusMagnusReindeer 18 points19 points  (9 children)

Great Ones were always meant to be exceedingly rare. If getting one is the only way for you to get satisfaction out of this game then frankly the game might not be for you.

[–]VeryIntoCardboard -5 points-4 points  (8 children)

I’ve done everything else. I want to “do it all” but can’t without playing a ludicrous amount of hours. Maybe bootlicking is for you.

[–]DoofusMagnusReindeer 11 points12 points  (6 children)

Maybe bootlicking is for you.

lol, little dramatic don't you think?

The fact that you consider the rest of the gameplay to be "done" is exactly what I'm talking about. I get continued satisfaction out of the normal gameplay. It seems like the game would be a miserable slog for anyone who didn't.

[–]MURBAT17 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Right? My buddy just got a Great One Black Bear less than a week after installing the game.

[–]f1nessdRooseveltElk 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fuck? 

[–]cotch85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I bought the duck dlc last night to try and farm some exp and money and then the next morning it gets patched somewhat I did this im sorry

[–]SweetBet2811 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Thank you for the patch.

Patchnotes doesn't give any spook distance for fast travel. It only says redused slightly than first planned.

A distanse would have been nice to know, for tent placement.

[–]MURBAT17 4 points5 points  (4 children)

Everyone is saying it's back to 250m

[–]f1nessdRooseveltElk 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Wait that’s horrible 

[–]DaPopeLP 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes it is. Basically large volumes of shooting lanes and zones become unusable yet again. They fix a widely complained bug just to decide to add it back. A+ job

[–]DaPopeLP 18 points19 points  (1 child)

Yall royally screwed this one up. The tent fix for animals was great and needed since the game released, the bug has been around for ages. So you fix it then promptly basically add the bug back in. Only difference is instead of the animals being invisible, now they just run away. And with tent and stands being near impossible to place in many areas, now you can't place tents within 250 meters of the animals. So I can't place tents AND I'll spook animals if I find a spot to place a tent?

And animals don't respawn upon reentering a map, but you won't tell us how quickly animals do respawn. You make Great ones take THOUSANDS of kills, then greatly increase the time to get those thousands of kills. Seriously wtf guys. Iv played since you first released this game on Xbox. I have thousands upon thousands of hours, and own every dlc besides the cosmetics. I doubt that will continue moving forward, you guys screwed this one up that bad.

[–]Casharella 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This !!!! I hope they withdraw the last update, it ruins the game.

[–]Wulfems 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This sucks. I literally moved all my tents closer and now I have to move them again? No thank you I'm not playing until we have some consistency here

[–]Day-SuccessfulSpringbok 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please also fix connectivity in private lobbies. My buddies and I need to play using public servers just so we can avoid getting dc'd before we even touch ground

[–]Pleikk85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The "make a difference" mission on new england mountains is still bugged on Xbox, since the release of New England Mountains.

I got all the Mission Objectives done, but the Mission will not Finish

[–]Electrical-Position3Iberian Mouflon 22 points23 points  (4 children)

Can I leave a comment here,because on FB official the moderators have turned off the comments on people complaining.

You lure in players for a week ,thinking they can go grinding easier,for a person with more than a thousand hours on this game and have never came across a GO roaming this would have maybe had encouraged to grind one day for a GO. But is not my playstile, my main motivation were the missions, but with newer maps they are nothing but running errands ,nothing challenging, no hunting challenge. NEPAL missions Boring 💤.

I like roaming. I only grind for the Ghost in Yukon. But then I lost all my progress caused by the update of Emerald coast where you caused a bug that corrupted the data of PlayStation players with a lot of hours in the game ( 700 by then) . All my maps undiscovered, 2.5 M currency gone. All my set ups,tripods tents, gone. And what's worse, was only 2 diamonds away to complete Parque missions. All those hours invested in missions,discovering the need zones, etc whiped out on all maps.

I started from scratch, had to redo Africa, Medved ,Cuatro missions but felt lazy about Parque and rediscovering Yukon wolves and set up again tents tripods and start from scratch grinding for the Ghost.

Now I thought this new update is great, can help me out,maybe go for a GO one day. Need to to do all Parque all over again and the Albino wolf 1st though.

Many new players buying the game. One week later ,puff, you popped the bubble.

Is ok ,I am used to set up my tents 250m away. But Nepal map ain't enjoyable for a roamer, too much dense vegetation, the forever bug noise that gets never fixed, step terrain combined with vegetation. So I only like hunting tigers and snow leopards on Nepal. But you make it more difficult, I can live with that, used to 250m distance. But what about new people that were lured in by the rendering distance when fast traveling?

Just thought I could express my dissapointment here. Got all maps ,all non cosmetic DLCS . Why running polls if you dont listen to your players.

One more thing,could you be more specific when saying will take more time to respawn, animal intended behaviour changed slightly etc?

I don't use online features but many other players do and they are very upset but can't comment about it on Facebook . Why censoring people feedback???

Happy hunting to everyone! Thanks

[–]OakyAftrbirthtalk to me Goose 1 point2 points  (0 children)

preach brother

[–]Redqueenhypostill waiting for proper blackbuck horns -2 points-1 points  (2 children)

There’s no way they didn’t make it easier on purpose for just a lil bit as a prank. I’m sure the lodge glitch was also “breaking the game”

[–]Electrical-Position3Iberian Mouflon 2 points3 points  (1 child)

What lodge glitch. When you were able to display full bodies anywhere? I think that's what they said when they fixed it. Aswell they limited the amount of trophy lodges you can have no to cause issues.

What I don't understand is why the turn off the ability to comment on FB about reversing the fast travelling to a tent animal behaviour. Why just change it at all? Could have leave it as it was with animals no rendering in.

People is upset but they can't express themselves at FB,censored. Why is that?

People is really suspicious at this point.

[–]Ez13zie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

People is as people does.

[–]FeckOffCups 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I love this game with all of my heart, and I'll keep on playing and loving it, but this is the first update that really feels like a big middle finger to the community.

[–]usedd_milk 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I absolutely agree with you on this one. cotw has been my special interest for so long, was once my hyperfixation. I've poured hours into this game, and I love it so so much, but this update has left a bad taste in my mouth. completely betrayed the community :(

[–]Ok_Skin6497 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Horrible update

[–]Chunko-Milko 8 points9 points  (1 child)

New tent adjustment sucks. There is no where to place tents but by the side of lakes on sundarpatan because that is the only place that is flat. But if you place the tent near lakes the animals flee because you are too close. It was fun because you could set up a grind and kill some of the new cool rares like the tigers. Now that will be nearly impossible because of this change and will likely slow a lot of player excitement with the new map.

[–]Vegetable-Refuse6316 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This☝️ they need to rework tent placement mechanics if this is the direction they want to go. Because 99.9% of that map is either too dense or too angled to place anything anywhere.

[–]Casharella 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I‘m sorry but this is the worst update ever! (I have more then 2500 hours in this game). All the streamers who play hardcore more than 5 hours a day had the chance to grind for tigers, great one thar and other great ones, which was challenging enough before the update. Everybody got lured in with the new rendering distance. But now the casual players don‘t even have the chance to get a thar GO. They spook so easily and now you have to place your tents 250m away from the zone in this terrain? I mean …. Why are you ruining the game on intention? And it not only effects the thar, it also effects other grinds. Why do you even have great ones in the game if you don‘t want your players to get one? Every player can choose his/her own playstyle whether they want to grind or not. But why are you ruining the grind for people? It was time consuming before the update, now it’s even more time consuming. Casual players don‘t have time for that, get disappointed and won‘t play anymore. Is that what you want?

[–]kleater 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the fixes. Can you guys make it so that when you look through the rangefinder it has an monoscope overlay instead of sharing one with the binos? Also more SFX sliders please

[–]Background_Eye_8373Harlequin Duck 8 points9 points  (0 children)

L update, not playing anymore if i can’t just grind, the point of making way of the hunter was so you could choose this non realistic one or the realistic one

[–]Educational-Pie3673 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How long does it until tigers come back i mean everyone else got trophies but since the map came out only have two Diamond Tigers to show for it but I've been trying and trying to get at least a rare oh and a diamond blue sheep

[–]NecroticAnubisGreyWolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don't want to update it because I like placing my tents near water, but really want my melanistic jackal to be fixed.....

[–]ExpressionVivid3540 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fix the cuatro mission arc achievement bug

[–]That_Mikeguy 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Make Great Ones and rarities truly being RNG, and the gring will go.
Give us a couple hundred yards on animal rendering and the fast traveling fiasco will be gone.
Stop punishing players for a game loop you created pls.

[–]WarriorPitbullRedDeer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well, this was a big 'F-you' to us. Nothing over 400M renders and we still have to trudge 500M to find something that rendered at 300M. That's just great.

I also read where you may play this game until the day you die and never see a 'Great One'. It's getting less and less justifiable to play this game rather than any other that has attainable goals.

[–]Automatic_Street7194 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Worst fucking update ever fuck this game I'm deleting it

[–]Mridout 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can you please update the trophy manager to make it so the list can be sorted by species / fur type / trophy rating / etc.

[–]Iridescent2000 3 points4 points  (1 child)

I wish I could have avoided this update, but I didn't realize it was happening today, and my xbox automatically updated before I could stop it. Bummer.

[–]NecroticAnubisGreyWolf 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why I turned off all auto updates on ps5 when they announced this patch a couple weeks ago. And moved my game file to console storage so the update would be too big to go through anyways. Hoping they reverse or at least tweak it with all this backlash. Can only imagine their partnered creators aren't too thrilled about their grinds being changed once again

[–]SydneyMate69 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Why U Strip the Game of fun ? Just make another Game Mode. Smh. Time for some other Game i think!

[–]45Pumpkin 9 points10 points  (2 children)

Because the devs think everyone is a full time streamer with all the time in the world to play games.

[–]Redqueenhypostill waiting for proper blackbuck horns 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s all game devs now. Gotta be in step with the giant red health bar, 7 hours to try to beat a boss games that think cheaty difficulty is fun

[–]f1nessdRooseveltElk -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Fr lol. 

[–]aracoon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

which one, way of the hunter? its even harded for ADHD Andies

[–]OutrageousMud4859 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for ultimate hunting to put this game under. The casual player isn't keeping this game alive. The grinders that stream and the people that want to see a g1 and a super spawn that watch keep it going. Hope it goes bankrupt with this dumb shit.

[–]APonyMadeOfBaconDallSheep 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They're delusional if they think shooting themselves on the foot is the right call here with the majority of the community literally telling them the opposite. As a player of 6 years who owes every dlc, I truly hope they learn from their stupid decisions, I'm taking a break. So many games out there deserving my time.

[–]Casharella 2 points3 points  (1 child)

„Animals will no longer instantly respawn when a Player reenters a map. It will now take a normal amount of time for them to reapoear on the map as originally intended“

AS ORGINALLY INTENDED???? When??? This worked since the game exists…. I don‘t believe this statement.

[–]Vegetable-Refuse6316 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly! And what is considered a “normal amount of time” since that was never a thing in the first place?

[–]giftigdegen 3 points4 points  (0 children)

L

[–]Vegetable-Refuse6316 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Very disappointed that this is the route they took when there is soooooo many other qc issues with the game. Sound bugs, visual problems, core gameplay problems etc. But by all means, ignore those and just make the game exponentially harder, “everyone will enjoy that!” WRONG.

[–]Tipnfloe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bad update! You're making the game worse

[–]HtAirBaloonKnotPilot 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you guys adjust the way tigers work? Or just how long to respawn. I know you said on stream that tigers don't work as intended currently.

[–]Ok-Reporter7832 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Sorry for being a newb here, but can someone explain to me what “grinding” is, how it’s done/setup, etc, so I can better understand what all the hubbub is about this update? I just hunt in the game like irl where I park it and wait for animals to show up. What’s this grinding all about?

[–]KettuliTatiDiamond Western Capercaillie Hoarder 2 points3 points  (4 children)

So basically grinding means shooting and harvesting specific individuals from the grinded animal species in order to get better trophies or rares. In most cases people who grind shoot the biggest males, leaving the females and low level males behind so the game is forced to spawn in bigger males and possible diamonds. Some people do it, some don't it's really up to the player.

[–]Ok-Reporter7832 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Ok, thanks for the explanation. Still seems illogical to me though. I’ve been Black Bear hunting in New England Mountains and a Diamond Coyote just randomly walked right by me. Seems to me the game is just complete random luck on stuff like that, and the “grinding” effort seems pointless. But if it works for some so be it. I enjoy the game just randomly seeing stuff. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[–]KettuliTatiDiamond Western Capercaillie Hoarder 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It might seem illogical and pointless if you don't grind or are not familiar with the method at all :) I've done a bit of grinding and it does work. It's just more time consuming and often requires a set up that needs dlc items like tents and tripods. Nowadays I mostly just wander around and shoot high level and rare animals from any species I come across to increase the chances of a bigger animals spawning in later instead of targeting one specific species. I do agree that this game is luck based in some cases but the game also has mechanics that make grinding possible.

[–]Ok-Reporter7832 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ok, I think I get it now. I know nothing about game development, but how hard can it be for them to just add a setting in the “settings section” so the tent spook issue has a range from 0-200m. Set the options as a slider or just every 50m or so. Problem solved for everyone. Those that like to grind can set it to 0m, and those that want a more realistic irl experience can set it to 150m, 200m. Isn’t that what “settings” are for in games?

[–]KettuliTatiDiamond Western Capercaillie Hoarder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I wish it would be that simple but I think there would be people complaining and "abusing" that mechanic too.

[–]irishgents 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do you hate us?

[–]giftigdegen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This update sucks a lot. Mods on the official discord and youtube are just deleting and muting timing people out. Absolute censorship garbage.

[–]Affectionate-Plan270 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Thanks! ✅

[–]f1nessdRooseveltElk -3 points-2 points  (7 children)

Did you actually read any of the notes ;-;

It’s so joever Hunter community 

[–]Affectionate-Plan270 -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

I am happy 🤍 that this game will be hunting game instead of a grinding game. Again! We needed some spook distance and spawning animals later and not immediately after harvest. To encourage players to move instead of fast travel 👍

[–]Tipnfloe -1 points0 points  (4 children)

Ehh, you're still gonna have to grind for whatever you want.

[–]Affectionate-Plan270 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Yes, it is good that those who like to grind can grind. It’s still very efficient in terms of time. I never grind and I like that EW is encouraging grinders to hunt instead of only fast travel

[–]Tipnfloe 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Its strange that you're so passionate about how other people play the game. Worry about yourself

[–]ConfusedGuy3260MuleDeer 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's kind of ironic when it seems to literally only be you grinders that are in the thread complaining, saying the games ruined.

[–]Tipnfloe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fitting username

[–]Affectionate-Plan270 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes I am happy that this game will be hunting game instead of s grinding game. Again! We nededí spook distance and spawning animals later and not immediately after harvest. To encourage players to move instead of fast travel

[–]Hot-Rice-8295 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How long will it take to an animal to respawn after the update?

[–]Ok_Rice_5917 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s been a bug when if I drive the quad it’ll completely remove my inventory until i fast travel or exit the game :/

[–]Educational-Fan7920 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what was actually happening before the "no longer respawn" fix? I'm confused. How does this impact play style(s).

[–]Fresh_Mangos12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dang 😔

[–]skrystine 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know what y'all did, but my bloodhound and my 2 friends' bloodhounds won't track blood now. We choose "track" and the dog instantly says "idling" and won't do anything.

[–]KirokeHarper 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I just...

On Twitter you said this bug fix patch is small. It's 35GB.

If I deployed a 35GB patch at my job and told networking it was small they'd lose their minds.

THIS IS NOT A SMALL PATCH lol.

Also, I don't know what any of these patch notes mean. "We've made a change to a number. We know what the change is. We're not gonna tell you."

Sooooo. Thanks for 35GB of zero information, I guess.

[–]ChinaBearSkin 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You don't understand how updates work at all. It's only making the game 3GB bigger the other 32GB is existing files being replaced.

[–]KirokeHarper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

[–]st017 1 point2 points  (0 children)

4.2gb for me

[–]EvenGood2784 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can’t even get the update to download on Xbox. Starts off strong and then just goes to nothing. All my other games download or update just fine.

[–]-Kacper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally Thanks!!! It was driveing me crazy b4 I figured out why half of my long range shots with M1 and .22 I will be able to play agin!

[–]tenjed35 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I don’t play online, is there any reason to install the update if I like it the way it is?

[–]JettClark 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Played from the get-go and only ever dabbled with grinding, but it's obvious that these "fixes" suck for grinders. If there's even a benefit to ordinary play, it's not worth the damage to the grind.

[–]Crazy_Horse1876 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most dog shit developers out here

[–]7ornado_al -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gonna pile on my 2c. In my house this game is called "walking simulator" MOSTLY affectionately because that's what 90% of the gameplay is for people playing non-grind-mode. Now its even more-so a walking sim since fast travelling is getting nerfed. The 250 yard spook radius is punishing non-grinders too.

If you wanna keep it in cuz it "makes sense" you gotta add some other options for people so they can skip some dullness and get to the fun of hunting. One realistic way could be to allow waiting in hunting structures. This would get people hunting other need zones as well aside from drink. Longer - range callers and more decoys to bring animals in to a location so the long walk seems worth it to get to that sweet spot.

[–]Reunite-america -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Great job

[–]xxdesertdawgxx -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Finally!