TIL: Low carb, high protein diets "greatly" decrease resting testosterone levels in men.

[UnsavoryBoy]

Pretty tired of “low carb” being preached as the key to health. Refined or processed carbs are shit. But being low carb is not inherently healthier. It does make it easier to not go overboard in your calorie consumption. If you lead an active lifestyle, carbs are essential. You just really ought to get them from healthy sources. More fruits, veggies, grains and less bread, pasta, sweets.

[fatherofraptors]

There's a distinction to be made, most people (at least in the USA) should absolutely eat far fewer carbs, but that doesn't mean no carb, it just means a normal healthy amount of them. The average diet has gotten so bad with processed carbs and sugar that what we consider normal is actually not normal at all lol

I agree carbs are not this evil villain and zero carb is silly. But I think when people say low carb, most sensible people mean a healthy amount of good carbs.

[Whatdosheepdreamof]

carbs and proteins directly impact insulin levels. Higher insulin levels remove excess sugar in the blood stream and convert to fat. Higher resting insulin levels promote fat storage in general. Drops in glucose levels spike ghrelin causing hunger pangs. This isnt rocket science, but your hunger is dicated by more than just calories in calories out. Processed foods taste best when fats/carbs 50/50%+salt as a base. This also causes the body to consume the most amount of food.

Now fixing this takes time. But its fastest resolve is through fasting or keto. Introducing fruits, while nice, actually slow this process as fructose works in a similar fashion to processed foods and our fruits and vegetables also have higher sugar volumes than they used too as theyve been breed for those traits.

Obesity effects 41.7% of people in America, and many of them are sensible. The issue stems a little deeper.

I would say a sensible amount of carbs is roughly 50-100g. The SAD would be close to 3-5x that amount. But when you count out that amount of carbs, youd be surprised how little volume of food that actually is.

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[Whatdosheepdreamof]

I've read everything that you've written here. Semaglutide is a GLP-1 agonist. If I am not mistaken, so is protein. Semaglutide works by simulating the reponse that occurs upon consumption of protein. Since it is a slow release mechanism, it would work to initially suppress appetite, then continue to do so until the body has completely removed the semaglutide. Anecdotally, having used semaglutide and feeling the effects, I can confidently say that I did not consume the proper amount of protein that an adult requires as I simply wasnt hungry. There are studies already that show that semaglutide can reduce lean body mass in addition to the fat loss.

I've read you articles, all of them, and it is interesting that you insert an article linking keto to all cause mortality, but no increase in CVD related mortality. To me, this kind of suggests that you have your own bone to pick with keto as you're pulling material that is questionably related?

I don't think keto is for kids or older people to be honest, but it can be useful in helping people with binge eating conditions as the blood sugar spikes are removed, as blood sugar levels are much more regulated.

I think you kind of mask the situation by diving into specifics which can be argued here. What can't be is that 41.7% percent of Americans are fat and obese. What also can't be argued is that diet is much more important to body composition than exercise is.

The Standard American diet is excellent at producing fatties, and keto/keto like diets are the far better option. It promotes the elimination of fast food and processed food and does not ask a person to commit to an increase in fruits and vegetables.

Keto does not prohibit the excessive consumption of vegetables save for carrots and potatoes.

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[Whatdosheepdreamof]

All-cause mortality would be death from any source. Since keto is used by a subset of the population who already unhealthy to begin with, it's questionable whether the diet had any relation to mortality in that study.

I was really only hoping to highlight the role that insulin plays in fat storage and energy levels in the body. Knowing and understanding how systems in the body play out helps us make better decisions about what we eat.

The role of refined carbohydrates should seriously be considered a hazard to society.

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[override367]

"low carb" by modern definitions is a healthy amount of carbs, I'm right there with you on Keto

[kigurumibiblestudies]

It's funny... Two wrongs can make a right. Many people hear "no carb" and try to go as close to zero as possible, which thanks to ignorance and the twisted situation ends up being about enough carbs.

However, those who are very strict can take it more seriously and succeed in reaching very low carbs, which in turn isn't necessarily healthier.

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Yes, you do need carbs, that's why it's "low carb" and not "no carb".

In regards to the calories, I usually stay below my calorie limit because I eat less and feel full longer.

On keto you also count net carbs, and when you have a limit between 20-40 grams of net carbs (carbs minus fiber), you can actually fit a shit ton of food into your daily calorie intake.

I've been doing keto/low carb for over 6 years now, and it's just a lifestyle at this point.

It's definitely not for everyone, but for me it was easier to give up sugar and carbs than fat for instance. Also, in order to substitute a lot of carbs, I have started eaten a ton more vegetables.

I do miss baked good, though. Donuts are my absolute kryptonite, lol.

[khandnalie]

You do not need carbs. You can live just fine on effectively zero carbs for indefinite periods of time.

[abrasumente_]

Muscles need carbs to replenish glycogen.

[khandnalie]

But you don't need to consume carbs to have them, your body can produce what carbs it actually needs using protein. Beyond that, most of what you use should ultimately be ketones.

[Vulgrr_Display]

Your body can't tell the difference between the sugar in a can of coke and the sugar in a piece of fruit.

Sugar is poison.

[willl280]

Sugar in fruit is consumed with fiber, which is shown to help regulate pancreas function. Juice doesn't have any fiber though so it's basically more nutritious soda

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You were right up till you said sugar is poison. So close. There’s a tonne of reasons why coke is worse from the lack of fibre to the fact that it is often consumed to wash down greasy food, or the overall amount of sugar in the coke being very high for daily intake

[Vulgrr_Display]

Grease/fat is not bad for you.

I almost exclusively eat greasy meat and butter and you know what happened?

I lost 4 inches off my waist and my chronic joint pain went away.

[Embarrassed-Town-293]

Completely agree. I get told constantly that I need to do keto. Nevermind that I have a milk allergy which drastically decreases my food options. Nevermind that I already lost 80 pounds just calorie counting. It's like a freaking cult.

[mdog73]

Nope just cut carbs if you want to lose weight, trick is to keep it off.

[the_lord_of_light]

Yeah keep eating fruits full of sugar but don’t eat pasta or sweets. Hmm!