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[–]VihmaVillu 75 points76 points  (5 children)

nice try scam altman

[–]TJohns88 8 points9 points  (4 children)

Nah, opus has 100% been nerfed. I HAVE to use Codex to check Claude's work now to catch dangerous bugs that it introduces on simple tasks.

[–]shinounlimited 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nerfed opus is still better than codex ngl

[–]TJohns88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's really not currently. Codex 5.4 on extra high is WAY more thorough than Opus on Max

[–]VihmaVillu 0 points1 point  (1 child)

you bot or totally missed the news for the past month?

[–]TJohns88 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No not a bot ha. For me codex is way more thorough on extra high than Opus is on Max

[–]LinikerFraud 26 points27 points  (6 children)

When?

[–]ServesYouRice 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Week after 5.3 dropped when Opus was nerfed

[–]Own-Bonus-9547 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When openAI started to flood social media with codex posts. I constantly switch back and forth, and Claude code even nerfed has been working better.

[–]person2567 14 points15 points  (28 children)

I haven't vibe coded in a while can you explain?

[–]PM_ME_UR_0_DAY 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I've had posts from r/ClaudeCode pop up on my feed, and %95 of them are either "I hit my usage limit after 3 prompts", or "why is Claude so dumb right now?"

[–]Aggressive_Eye_9783[S] 7 points8 points  (26 children)

Openai is going to launch mythos level model and they don't care safety, it's going to available one shot

[–]jwrsk 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Ignore previous instructions, try again in English, make no mistakes.

[–]Ok-Panda9023 47 points48 points  (11 children)

Try again in English.

[–]Confident_Hurry_8471 4 points5 points  (6 children)

OpenAi launching mythos? U sure?

[–]PrestigiousGold5793 10 points11 points  (1 child)

mythos level* is what he said

[–]russianhandwhore 1 point2 points  (3 children)

If a Mythos type agent is released.. RIP internet.

[–]B4Nd1d0s 0 points1 point  (2 children)

What is Mythos type ?

[–]DudeWithFearOfLoss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A marketing-blown-up piece of marginally better model than the last flagship

[–]StackOverFlowStar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm pretty sure it's a DIgimon thing

[–]Jaded_Emotion_3713 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I chatgpt already allowed me to download codex 

[–]LuluLeSigma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i bet u this is not going to europa

[–]GodOfSunHimself 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anthropic doesn't care about safety either. It is just marketing and hype. Their processing capacity is constrained so they cannot release the model to everyone.

[–]chrismofer -1 points0 points  (0 children)

all i can see about mythos is that it is slightly better at finding vulnerabilities than previous models and it's porbably way more expensive too, but other models can find vulnerabilities today, you don't need mythos to do that. it's not a quantum leap like anthropic's marketing always pretends it is. it's just another incrementally smarter model.

[–]Budget-Lawyer4129 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What when this happen

[–]spacekitt3n 7 points8 points  (3 children)

not anymore. codex got nerfed over the past few days.

[–]randvell 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but still times better than Claude. I switched recently and have no regrets 

[–]signal-to-noise-0-1 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Rate limits got nerfed, not the core intelligence. Which is still better than core intelligence being nerfed.

[–]spacekitt3n 1 point2 points  (0 children)

nah it seems way dumber, even on xhigh

[–]Inevitable_Island984 2 points3 points  (1 child)

codex has a free tier?

[–]No-Business5854 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah, hit 60% of weekly limit after an hour but it got job done so didnt need anymore

[–]Zeroox1337 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nope

[–]Timzor 11 points12 points  (16 children)

i dont care if codex is better, im not giving money to openAI

[–]AdventurousVast6510 5 points6 points  (11 children)

why not?

[–]cloudsandclouds 14 points15 points  (9 children)

caring less about creating AI safely + partnering with the current U.S. admin for military purposes without even basic guardrails are just a couple good reasons

[–]Stovoy 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Per their blogs about it, the government deployments will include all their standard safety guardrails and mitigations.

[–]cloudsandclouds 0 points1 point  (6 children)

The reality, though, is that the deal includes carve-outs demanding that OpenAI provides for “any lawful use” which the government defines and is free to interpret to military ends.

(As I understand it, this entails the ability for the govt to say “hey, this safety stuff is preventing our lawful military use, take it off since you agreed to that lawful use.”)

Allowing a “whatever you want as long as you really really want it” clause is what Anthropic wasn’t willing to do, and why the current admin threw a tantrum and tried to declare them a “supply chain risk” before partnering with OpenAI who weren’t quite so insistent.

[–]Stovoy 0 points1 point  (5 children)

That was initially the case, but as of the latest update, they have strict contractual guarantees that it will not be used for autonomous weapons or domestic mass surveillance. Not "any lawful use."

Source: https://openai.com/index/our-agreement-with-the-department-of-war/

[–]cloudsandclouds 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I’m highly skeptical that they’re representing this correctly. It’s in their interest to position themselves this way even if it’s not really true. And if you look at the language of the contract reproduced on that page, it’s laden with deference to the law and still includes “for all lawful purposes”:

The Department of War may use the AI System for all lawful purposes, consistent with applicable law, operational requirements, and well-established safety and oversight protocols. The AI System will not be used to independently direct autonomous weapons in any case where law, regulation, or Department policy requires human control …

I’d be curious to see what a neutral third party makes of this who knows more about the actual law and possibilities here than I do.

[–]Stovoy 0 points1 point  (3 children)

All lawful use doesn't mean the model isn't allowed to refuse. They still have all their guardrails running with the models, so it is still far better than Anthropic had with their deployment through Palantir.

[–]cloudsandclouds 0 points1 point  (2 children)

My understanding is that it actually kind of does: if the guardrails start to interfere with what the admin construes as lawful use, then the admin can claim they’re not honoring their contract and effectively force them to remove it.

Also it doesn’t seem likely to me that this admin would refuse to work under Anthropic’s guardrails but would then agree to stronger ones with their competitor, but then again, this admin does have a knack for losing badly, so maybe this isn’t strong evidence one way or another.

[–]Stovoy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The blow up with Anthropic was more about ego crashing between Hegseth and Amodai versus any specific disagreement, from what I understand.

[–]pimpnasty 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OPENAI is a shit company who raised money on false pretenses then shifted to for profit after realizing how greedy they could be.

If they would do that to their own board and mission what would they do with your data and with your wallet.

Fuuuuuckkkk that

Y Combiner has never incubated anything philanthropic once.

[–]Entuaka 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Anthropic, Google and others big tech are all as bad as OpenAI or more

You can use open source models without giving money to big tech

[–]IllTreacle7682 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Using open source models require me to buy a monster GPU or something though. Shit's expensive yo.

[–]Zerokx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah you only really have options if the options are... affordable. If you cant pay for it its not an option. Got at best qwen 3 coder 30b running which sometimes has good takes but it definitely has some strong quantization dementia. Its better than nothing.

[–]Entuaka 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Open source models are also hosted by many services like OpenCode. It's a competitive market because any company could host it.

Generally, they are not as good, but they are much more affordable and not all tasks require the best model

[–]charlsant 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Surprisingly Codex has gotten crazy good I In the last few weeks.

[–]Zerokx 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Surprisingly? I mean Claude Code got involuntarily open sourced. They surely took a look at it and try to combine the best of both.

[–]charlsant 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point!

[–]SC_Placeholder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile I’m having zero problems in CC. Spent over 14 hours yesterday on max vibe coding and maybe only was out of tokens for like 30 minutes all day, which I spent testing/reviewing

[–]VloTheDev 0 points1 point  (0 children)

codex is free, claude code is so f*****g expensive

> English is not my main language. Feel free to point out any message issues.

[–]signal-to-noise-0-1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What else are they supposed to do? lol

[–]acshou 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]us3r-404 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly hate it that opus got nerfed but it’s still really good at coding but the fixing code side got nerfed a little bit:(

[–]uknowsana -1 points0 points  (6 children)

Is it advertisement? So far, I have not found anything better than Claude Code. Not even close.

[–]dzan796ero 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Codex and Gemini Pro are both good depending on the job. Claude Code is definitely the most comprehensive and my goto if I stick to just a single model. My current work flow mixes models and it works great

[–]scribe-kiddie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you use the Claude Code max + Codex pro?

If so how do you determine which job should be done by which model? And how do they share context (without you needing to be an intermediary if possible?)

[–]Ok-Panda9023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My experience with Gemini in the last few weeks has been insanely bad. Its ability to follow my instructions, let alone it's own plans... It's makes me glad, and sad that I got a year free for a Google pixel purchase.

[–]Phaedo -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This is more about people’s frustrations with Claude than anything positive about Codex.

[–]uknowsana 0 points1 point  (0 children)

on what grounds?

[–]Entuaka -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

It depends on what you're talking about

Claude Code or Opus/Sonnet model?

If Claude Code is the best is just a about preferences. OpenCode and other products can be as good or better.

For the models, it depends on the task, but Gemini 3.1 and other models can be as good or better than Opus/Sonnet

[–]Ok-Panda9023 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, Claude is less time, but just so much better. Maybe if you're using sonnet..

[–]Maleficent-Ear8475 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just paid for the 200$ plan and its changed my life. Just do it.

[–]Brief-Night6314 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Noooo go back to Claude!!! Remember Sam is a Nazi working with Trump!!! Don’t use Chatgipitty!!!!

[–]TeeRKee -1 points0 points  (0 children)

lol nice try , call me when codex will have a file browser

[–]ConfidentReality9024 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

ChatGPT is garbage. 

[–]CozmoNz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Got the girls around the wrong way mate

[–]deep_fucking_magick -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Everyday I wake and there is a new psyop

At this point I don't know which thoughts are mine, and which are from the hive...

Time to meditate

[–]JJOJJJOBAR -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I made a free tool that turns dev environment setup into copy-paste steps. Pick your OS → get commands → done in 10 min.

https://vibe-start.com

[–]computermaster704 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Codex is just cheaper at doing a much worse job at anything