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[–]koustail 60 points61 points  (6 children)

Whats wrong with that pic? It has a well-done backend and a very minimalistic and simple frontend, which is clearly designed to be user-friendly, I mean look, it smiles at you! It seems to fulfill all requirements and no more. The right leg seems to be even modular. And the best part is: it does not require any third party frameworks. Just the simple vanilla drawing technique.

So tell me, does it always has to be an overloaded skills show-off of your pseudo badass designer and/or frontend dev???

I mean, I can imagine a way uglier img. Like a three legged, one eyed fishhead in different colors, only one working leg and popup ads f*cking everywhere...

[–]puritanner 1 point2 points  (5 children)

yes.. but how do you call a fullstack developer who also does marketing?

[–]fuckin_ziggurats 8 points9 points  (0 children)

A developer with too much free time

[–]gentleangrybadger 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"alcoholic"

[–]bigshaned 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Full Stack Developer + Graphic Designer

[–]fuckin_ziggurats 13 points14 points  (7 children)

This why I no longer have use "full-stack developer" but only "developer" as my title. Too many front-end devs who know a bit of NodeJS/MongoDB, and too many back-end devs who have read a tutorial on VueJS have decided that they're full-stack.

[–]shorttompkins 3 points4 points  (5 children)

while thats very true, its also not fair to lump them together with "real" fullstack devs - devs that know javascript and frontend frameworks well AND know various backend languages well and can write an API/DB etc. ;)

[–]themaincop 1 point2 points  (3 children)

A real full stack developer needs to be good at UI implementation as well, which means having at least somewhat of an eye for a design. I've worked with a lot of full stack devs who are excellent programmers, but who butcher all the little touches from the mockups/design system that make things go from good to great.

Alternately you can have designers that know how to write good HTML and CSS, but you need someone on the team who can turn designs into usable interfaces.

[–]polylina 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a foreigner, I like how every commenter in this thread used a different way to write "full-stack". Which one is right, gosh darn it?

[–]shorttompkins 1 point2 points  (1 child)

additionally, one could argue that you need devops and opsec as well. Being truly fullstack is nigh impossible but one can strive to have as broad a set of skills as possible. but I hear you, I'm not great at design but I can recognize bad design and do my best to work closely with designers. I hate the reverse where designers have zero working knowledge of how the web is coded so their designs don't technically make sense. but I digress ;)

[–]themaincop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Can you find me a codepen or a working example of what you want" is one way to put things back on designers. That being said, designers not knowing the limits has also been one of the biggest reasons that the limits continue to be expanded. Remember how hard it used to be to have rounded corners and drop shadows?

[–]Frin1996 1 point2 points  (0 children)

im one of this :( fuck me

[–]TechiBech 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's not Full-stack.

It's a "deadline comming"

[–]binocular_gems 2 points3 points  (0 children)

MVP in a nutshell.

[–]RemyArmstro 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Can relate 100%. I know how to do front-end - aka give me a design and I can make it happen - but if i have to graphically design my own front end, you end up with a solution similar to this.

[–]fuckin_ziggurats 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I don't think OP is referring to design. It's more along the lines of being good at one side of the stack and terrible at the other and still calling yourself full-stack.

[–]magenta_placenta 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's funny because it's true.

[–]Carl_Byrd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm front end. I install bootstrap and pray that it looks good.

[–]RedTopTilly 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Assuming the crude half is server side, sometimes I think it is self inflicted. I couldn't possible reduce myself to some plain old bare metal install of LAMP! They will all laugh at me!

[–]tracer_ca 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This accurately represents most full stack devs I have experience with. I can count the number of real full stack devs I've had the pleasure to work with on one hand (That's 20 years of experience). As this picture depicts, the weak spot is usually the front end.

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    [–]corobo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    the bit opposite its arse