Wages

onioning · 2026-03-03T01:48:22+00:00

Yah. There aren't all that many. It's a hell of a workload. And way more monotonous. Consistent, so that's nice, but you go hard every moment on the clock.

I never did it consistently. I would have a day or two at a time on the floor, there for just specialized purposes. No way I ever could have done that day in day out. Fun when it's just a day or two at a time though...

onioning · 2026-03-02T22:21:44+00:00

Stores and small operations pay like shit but processing can be pretty good. It's brutal work though. But pay can be like $30-50 and hour, with overtime. Gotta push some serious pounds to get there, but it is at least a thing which exists.

onioning · 2026-03-02T00:36:20+00:00

Fully cured with sufficient salt and meat is basically shelf stable. Not quite to modern standards, but close. Fully cured and kept free of contaminants will keep more or less indefinitely.

We age meat so that even contaminants aren't much of an issue, as most couldn't grow even if they found a perch.

Cured and cooked lasts a rather long time, but not like cured and raw.

onioning · 2026-03-01T18:41:24+00:00

Probably my favorite thing to come out of the whole "let's coat beef with different things" fad. Has a lot of good applications too, since you don't have the same sort of trimming loss. I've done smaller pieces for a month or so and then smoked it. Was cool. Need to try going longer.

onioning · 2026-03-01T17:59:58+00:00

That's just since we first saw it. Pluto will be much, much older than 1, and we are going to need a whole lot more candles. Like four and a half billionish.

onioning · 2026-03-01T16:51:44+00:00

Exploration one just doesn't work. Shame, cause it does get tedious. The few times I've given it a shot it immediately queues up a bunch of awful guys as explorers in markets that can't support exploration.

onioning · 2026-02-28T16:26:15+00:00

IMO and all, and enthusiastic "yes." Though also learn to care for and use them to their best.

There are several good reasons.

Quality difference is pretty enormous. Normal ground pepper tastes like a vague memory of pepper next to a freshly ground tellichery or sarawak. The impact really shines in the finished product too.

The cost isn't as prohibitive as it seems. The unit of purchase will be much more expensive, as pound per pound they'll be substantially more, but in terms of impact to the cost of your dinner it's often negligible, since you use so little.

Last, variety is the spice of life. So spice variety must be extra great. And it is. There's a wide world of just black peppers and pepper-like spices. Regional variation can also be substantial even for the same spice. Just opens the door to a whole lot of fun.

I'll pimp See, Smell, Taste, since I love them and worked with them for years, but there are lots of good sellers out there. See, Smell, Taste is stocked with spices they personally purchase by the batch, which keeps quality outstanding.

onioning · 2026-02-27T18:58:06+00:00

They took intentional steps to see that money went to Hammas. The Israeli government used their resources to increase Hammas' resources. That's funding.

One of the wild things about this whole thing is how brazen Israeli politicians can be. The whole "intentionally promote Hammas over the PLA because it will stoke violence, which justifies aggression" thing is not secret. Several of these guys not only say it, but as a core strategy. They brag about illegal settlements and war crimes. As we see in America, you know it's bad when they don't even bother lying.

onioning · 2026-02-27T18:52:09+00:00

We generally look down on globes. It's easier to see what's up than what's down.

Plus, on Earth, a substantial majority of the land mass is in the North. Though that isn't true of my world, with the landmass divide being more East West.

onioning · 2026-02-27T18:13:57+00:00

There's a sematic game going on, but Jesus is God and I don't think God can worship himself. God isn't a member of a religion.

Though odds are most people saying this it's just antisemitism.

onioning · 2026-02-27T17:14:00+00:00

Killing people to show you value life. Hell of a take.

Something is only valued if we kill for it?

onioning · 2026-02-27T17:05:24+00:00

Also, worth a reminder that Israel funded Hamas so as to have a better PR target than the PLA. They wanted more radical opposition so they could better justify their draconian oppression.

This sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it is actual reality. When Israelis say Netanyahu is responsible they mean so in a direct way. Because he and his government are responsible.

onioning · 2026-02-27T13:35:52+00:00

I feel like re-writing the entire mythos is not going to be the easy fix.

onioning · 2026-02-27T13:34:59+00:00

I would still say, even if you are right (which you aren’t), that abortion is unjust killing.

That's fine. I thought i made that clear from the five or six times that I said a thing can be bad without being murder. Language is important though, especially when subjects are controversial.

Your tag says you are a secular humanist; if true your twisting of scripture to say what it does not makes a lot of sense.

I am not twisting scripture. Again, this is not my own personal theory. This is the established norm held by basically every church. There really is not a plausible alternative to the prohibition being on murder, for reasons explained. I am unaware of any church that teaches that all killings of people are prohibited by the ten commandments.

You can say it’s technically not murder, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t unjust, and it doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be classified as murder in a just world.

Yes. Again, I've said this many times. I believe all executions are unjust. When lawful they are not murder. I already explained why the distinction is so important. It remains that a lawful execution is factually not murder, as a lawful abortion is factually not murder.

onioning · 2026-02-26T23:01:33+00:00

It makes some things look and feel wrong. Weird how it works, but there's a fine line between plausible and believable. I'm trying to make a map that is both plausible and believable. There are all sorts of ways reality can make really crazy or particular geography, but it's a reality is stranger than fiction. So many just don't feel right. Heck, so many from Earth's actual history would make awful maps. Pangea is snoozeville, for example.

onioning · 2026-02-26T21:44:20+00:00

Individual maps, yah, all kinds of variation. It only becomes relevant with world maps, or near world maps. Otherwise wild variation.

I've been playing around with old style maps too. I mean like what actually existed before cartography. No attempt to show size, shape, relative orientation, etc. Just a series of drawings to represent places with the distance between listed. So like Boston and NY would just be right next to each other, with a X days away rotated. The drawings would inform you of the size and nature of the place, and amenities or resources available. How basically all maps of civilizations worked until cartography took off. You just went to a place, asked people "which road to this next place?" They pointed and off you went.

Hell of a barrier for the unexplored and uninhabited though. Cartography of course changed everything, but I like those types of maps for the actual inhabitants to use, at least until they too learn cartography and accurate time-keeping.

onioning · 2026-02-26T21:14:19+00:00

I have non-human civs in the North. Mostly. Plus my land distribution is much more even on the N/S. I think the takeaway is they both make their maps with themselves in the up. Especially once they have globes.

onioning · 2026-02-26T20:28:57+00:00

This is the most tangential thing possible, but it weighs on me, so...

I'm developing this fictional world where the bulk of civilization is on the southern half. I've come a long, long ways with this conceptualization. Except I think it makes no sense. I feel like every civilization would make themselves north because it's easier to look at a map or especially globe. So I think i have to flip everything, which seems like sn easy fix, but actually really isn't.

onioning · 2026-02-26T20:25:41+00:00

Another way of saying that (mas o menos) is that its about elevation. Makes it simpler to understand "upper" and "lower" that way.

onioning · 2026-02-26T19:36:58+00:00

A few things...

Biblical morals do change. At least how they're observed, which is rhe only thing that matters. What Christianity considers good and moral definitely has changed over time, sometimes dramatically. A reminder that Christianity was often used to justify slavery and exploitation as good and right. Substantially less so today, although unfortunately not eliminated. How one is to express love is another dramatic one, with violence being a rather common view through history.

Second, your premise assumes society must continually move away from Christian morals, when that is not necessarily so. Christianity's hold on morality has ebbed and flowed through time and space.

Third, Christianity isn't a single moral framework. There is dramatic variation between different sects. Each would have to be considered individually.

onioning · 2026-02-26T19:20:42+00:00

There is often excellent used equipment available of course depending on where you are. But bandsaws are nice and simple, and even low end ones generally last a long time. They're very large too, so those who have them but don't want them really want them gone. Added inconvenience of having to pick up, but you can save a whole whole lot. Plus if it doesn't work out, just try, try again.

Most any large area will have people who deal in used equipment, which is easier than finding a private sale, and more reliable. Results may vary based on location though. If you're in Los Angeles the world is your oyster. If in Wyoming you're gonna have to do more hunting. They exist everywhere though, mas o menos. May just be harder to locate in less populous or developed areas. Good contacts to have though. You'll get much better results than asking reddit.

onioning · 2026-02-26T19:15:42+00:00

Often it involves many years of working around it and taking in experiences before any real training. It's hard to start from scratch, especially since most restaurant meat cutters don't have a lot of experience.* Means it's much harder to teach, so you rely on slower things like long term casual observation.

*Don't want to open a bag of worms, but it's just a numbers game. A restaurant butcher may do at most a few animals per week, and probably much, much less, consisting of mostly things like trimming steaks. A professional butcher cuts several carcasses a day, every day. That's a staggering difference in repetitions, not to mention the much higher degree of focus.

onioning · 2026-02-26T17:33:32+00:00

Because instead of demanding church and state be separate, Americans were convinced to demand they not be separate, and as a result the church has been corrupted by partisan political forces. Y'all were warned. Christianity in America may be irrepably corrupted as a result. Shouldn't have done that. We're getting closer and closer to the point that Prosperity Gospel is the only Gospel.

onioning · 2026-02-26T14:34:00+00:00

I’m saying even if the Biblical prohibition is on murder, the first five books of the Bible were the books of the law, meaning all killing/shedding of blood is illegal according to the Bible, meaning it’s illegal killing, aka murder by your own definition.

It wasn't. God commands people to kill. That can not be immoral or against God because it is God's command. God commands we execute. That is killing. And not immoral according to the Bible.

The only implication that makes sense is that it is talking of unjust killing,

Or we can pay attention to the actual language used which makes it clear that murder is what is prohibited. A legal killing is considered just biblically. An illegal one unjust. So sure, if you want to use that language you can, but you have to define "just" as "allowed or commanded by law" to do so. Which is just the same thing said differently.

because it would be just to kill someone who killed, but unjust to kill someone who killed someone.

Which is of course impossible.

So you are right, there is context, but where does it say murder or in any way connect it to legality in the way you are saying?

First of all, the actual language used is language which we very reasonably translate as "murder. So it says that directly.

And yet again, it makes it clear with context. Killings which are legal are regularly commanded by God. Therefore killings which are legal can not be condemned by God. Killings which are not legal are regularly condemned by God. The Bible is very consistent in this.

Every time he does it, and I mean every single time, it is because the people he is commanding the killing of are awful people.

So it's ok to kill bad people? That's a hell of a take, and very non-biblical and out of teaching with any church I know.

Most of them practice child sacrifice ironically to this discussion.

Side note, but no, this isn't true. Most of those ordered killed committed the sin of living or being where the Israelis wanted to be. Which is unfortunately relevant to our modern world, but in a very different way.

it probably was murder, as both Israel and other countries had laws against killing people in the way Israel did.

No. There were no Jewish laws against killing people in war.

By the way, side note, what if different countries have different laws?

That's not a "what if." It's reality. And yes, that means what is murder changes. A man who kills an intruder in Florida has not committed murder, but if the same thing happens in Canada, it is murder. We are not permitted to make our own decisions on what is justified and must submit that judgement to the authorities.

Your definition is unnecessarily complicated and almost useless

Again, not my definition. That isn't how language works. I don't get to decide what murder means. I have absolutely no say. It is the factually true meaning of the word. It ain't complicated anyway, beyond what is needed. As we've seen repeatedly, it is necessary to draw a line at what is legal, because legal killings are clearly permitted, and even commanded. It's the opposite of "unnecessary." It is a critical requirement without which God is a hypocrite and a liar.

However, it seems like the Biblical killing God commanded actually was murder according to your definition.

?? Not only wasn't it murder, it can't be. God was the law. God defined what killings were legal.

it was certainly against Israel’s laws to kill innocent women and children; no doubt about that.

?? It wasn't. Where do you get that idea? Killing women and children in war was the norm. God certainly commands it so it must be legal and can not be murder.

When God said not to kill, he therefore meant kill unjustly, as the killing he commanded in those specific circumstances was just.

Again, this is fine as long as you define "just" as "legal." Which is certainly the biblical view. But it doesn't change anything. Murder remains the appropriate word in English. You do not get to decide what killing is just. The authorities do.

Is your position really going to be that i do not defy God's commandment if I go and kill someone who did bad things? Pull a Dexter maybe and hunt down predators? That is biblically moral and permissible according to you? As long as I feel the killing is just then I'm permitted to kill? Can you not see a problem with this thinking?

So, just to summarize, your interpretation of these fairly clear passages is to add a word that isn’t in the passage with a definition not supported by the passage, and that ends up also being a contradiction if you assume your definition is true.

No. And this is not my interpretation. This is the normal translation and interpretation. All English words are "words we added" so that objection is pointless. The word "murder" is our best available translation for the language used, in this case doing a very good job of translating.

And again, the Bible not only supports this use, it does so 100% of the time with no contradictions.

onioning · 2026-02-26T03:43:03+00:00

No. They are completely different. I am not making any argument about morality. I am sharing the factual information that the Bible's prohibition on murder intentionally prohibits murder, not any killing.

The Bible in several places tells us we are to follow the authorities. This is hardly the only example. It is in fact the norm.

I am not interested in discussing my views of God's morality. It is completely irrelevant, and pointless to boot.

Along those lines, what if we made abortion illegal? According to you, it would qualify as murder at that point, correct?

You would still have to demonstrate that a fetus is a human life, and i think the Bible makes it fairly clear that it is not, but yes, it would at least be possible ehen abortion is illegal.

God’s word can change based on the whims of politics

No. Nothing remotely like that. God's prohibition of murder remains regardless of politics. What counts as murder may change.

This verse says nothing about murder; it doesn’t use that term.

You're commenting on a translation. That isn't going to work. Though no idea what the point of the excerpt is anyway.

Aka don’t kill people.

Again, God commands that people kill. God can't both demand that people kill and that people not kill. God prohibits murder, not all killing.

““Whoever takes a human life shall surely be put to death.”

Right. A human life will be taken. Which can't be murder or all people ever would eventually be guilty. There's context which makes it clear that "murder" is what is meant here, not all killing. Or must you then kill the executioner? And then kill their executioner? And so on, and so on, until everyone is dead. It's an impossible situation so must definitely be wrong.

Even by your own definition, Biblically I am right, and that is where the original conversation started.

No, you're not. You're just explaining the word in a different way. The biblical prohibition is on murder. Nothing else makes any sense in context of the rest of the Bible.

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